johnnycanuck
Puritan Board Freshman
I recently watched John MacArthur's video: Islam and the Antichrist where summed up he states that their AntiChrist is our Christ and vice versa. Any thoughts?
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Too bad that some do not see him anywhere at all though.That's dispensationalists for you, they see the anti-Christ everywhere.
I recently watched John MacArthur's video: Islam and the Antichrist where summed up he states that their AntiChrist is our Christ and vice versa. Any thoughts?
Islam thinks of Jesus as a great prophet.
Jesus per them also will kill off the Jews and Christian's at His return.Not only that, Islam specifically teaches that at the end of the world Jesus will defeat its version of the Antichrist, Al-Masih ad-Dajjal.
Jesus per them also will kill off the Jews and Christian's at His return.
The Isis types, as well as those in Iran seem to be following what Muhammed really taught though, and they would use nuke on us or Israel to try to force their second coming views to happen.Perhaps according to some fundamentalist interpretations of the Koran. Most Islamic summaries I've seen say that upon Jesus' return he will show himself true to Islam, which will then cause all
"people of the Book" (Christians, Jews, and Muslims) to remain or become true Muslims. It is then said that during a subsequent earthly reign of forty years Jesus will destroy a resurgent Gog and Magog, seemingly a nebulous reference to any anti-Islamic forces.
Many would see them as being closest to what Muhhamed really taught.Yes, ISIS and recent Iranian regimes are definitely Islamic fundamentalists. Which faction is rightly interpreting the Koran is of course an intermural debate among them.
Islam has the Law if Abrogation for Koran, as the later sayings of their prophet supersede earlier ones.So his friendly view towards people of the book, Jews and Christian's, turned to Jihad then.I have seen some of the different interpretations of the Koran within Islam compared to differing interpretations of the Bible among Christians. For example, the expression "eat my flesh and drink my blood" (John 6:56) is assigned different degrees of literality between Catholics and Protestants. Likewise, it is said, different sects of Muslims will assign various degrees of literality to passages in the Koran that speak of eradicating Christians and Jews. Which is closer to Mohamed's original intent is of course the question. Some say his literal jihad against 8th century Christians and Jews proves he meant it very literally. Others point out that in most cases Mohamed gave Christians and Jews in the lands he conquered the opportunity to pay a religious tax, called the jizyah, upon which they were allowed to continue practicing their faiths. Personally, while I'm somewhat interested in knowing which is most likely, ultimately it doesn't really matter. Anyway you cut it, Islam is a blasphemous false religion.
Islam has the Law if Abrogation for Koran, as the later sayings of their prophet supersede earlier ones
Think that the majority though in Muslim would uphold that view of the later sayings trumping the early ones, as Allah was changing His mind at times.Even this principle is viewed and applied differently across Islam. The simple fact is Islam is no more monolithic in all of its beliefs than is universal Christianity.
"In a prophecy attributed to Muhammad, the Prophet predicts the Day of Judgment will come after the Muslims defeat Rome at al-`Amaq or Dabiq, two places close to the Syrian border with Turkey. Another prophecy holds that Rome’s allies will number 80. The Muslims will then proceed to conquer Constantinople..."
If ISIS' strategy didn't make since, they were trying to spark the Final Showdown. These groups are very eschatological (probably scatological, too). I even think the ISIS magazine (yes, they had a magazine) is called Dabiq.
Here are the signs of the appearance of the Mahdi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signs_of_the_reappearance_of_Muhammad_al-Mahdi
The Dajjal is blind in his right eye, so that might help us identify him when he comes.
"When he comes"? Were you quoting someone or are you seriously suggesting that the Dajjal will be a historical figure?
Not all Muslims agree that the Mahdi will return, that is mostly found in the Shiite (12ers) sect. ISIS is actually a part of the most conservative Sunni sect similar to what is found in Saudi Arabia, they would not agree with everything you've stated. In fact, they do not even believe that the Mahdi has been born yet.
I don't wish to get too political but all of the known terror groups are Sunni, except for Hezbollah, so the idea that Shia dominated Iran is the biggest sponsor of Sunni terror is laughable. I wish there was more knowledge of middle east religion.
I take it that no one here is a partial preterist.......
I think Dajjal and Mahdi will probably be historical figures. Satan does not lie outright, but produces counterfeits. So the Islamic Messiah will probably be the Christian Antichrist, possibly. And their bad guy, the Dajjal, might be a great hero for us.
The Sunni also believe in the Mahdi. The Sunni follow the following collections of Hadith, and these speak of the Mahdi: Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Ibn Majah, Sunan Abu Dawud, and Sahih al-Nisa’i.
These state that at the end of the world the Mahdi will come and establish a universal government. The Prophet Isa will return as one of the followers of the Mahdi.
Our confessions states it is the pope.
nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist
antichristos from
anti - (figuratively) "in place of," i.e. what substitutes (serves as an equivalent, what is proportional). https://biblehub.com/greek/473.htm
Christos - properly, "the Anointed One," the Christ (Hebrew, "Messiah"). https://biblehub.com/greek/5547.htm
The Pope claims he is the Vicar of Christ (Vicarius Christi).
Vicarius is a Latin word, meaning substitute or deputy. It is the root of the English word "vicar". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarius
I do not hold that the Pope is the Antichrist, as scriptures seem to indicate will be a man of military and economic power, but the papacy certainly fits that of the False Prophet of end times. I just do not see the scriptures themselves agreeing with Confession on this exact point.Our confessions states it is the pope.
nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist
antichristos from
anti - (figuratively) "in place of," i.e. what substitutes (serves as an equivalent, what is proportional). https://biblehub.com/greek/473.htm
Christos - properly, "the Anointed One," the Christ (Hebrew, "Messiah"). https://biblehub.com/greek/5547.htm
The Pope claims he is the Vicar of Christ (Vicarius Christi).
Vicarius is a Latin word, meaning substitute or deputy. It is the root of the English word "vicar". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarius
Scripture identifies him as antichrist which is the title he claims for himself. He just uses "vicar" instead of "anti", but both mean substitute.I do not hold that the Pope is the Antichrist, as scriptures seem to indicate will be a man of military and economic power, but the papacy certainly fits that of the False Prophet of end times. I just do not see the scriptures themselves agreeing with Confession on this exact point.