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you can post your all you want. You're not hurting my feelings any but apparently I stepped on some toes. I did not accuse anyone here of being racial at all. I don't see where anyone has. I was making that point that for a person (anyone, here on PB or elsewhere) to deny that Vick's performance in the Monday night game was nothing short of spectacular, would have to be biased against Vick in some way. The reason I say this is because statistically it was proven to be one of the best NFL games every played by a QB. So then what would be the reasons someone would not give Vick his due credit? The only answer is a bias of some sort. What biases could possibly exist against Vick? Well let's see (in no particular order):
1) don't like the Eagles
2) don't like Vick because of the dog-fighting history
3) don't like the new, younger breed of NFL players
4) don't like to see a black QB (traditionally in times past a 'white' role) having success
5) this one's a stretch but maybe a Redskins fan?
If you don't exhibit any of those biases against Vick, then good, because one has no reason to, but please don't try to convince me that no one hold any of those biases because I personally know that to be untrue.
Do you want to encourage sin? I don't. I believe their playing on the Lord's day is sin. I have to admit that I do watch some things ever now and again because I am with family. But I personally think this is a National sin we are paying for and will pay for. It is a modern day phenomenon. These things should be done on Saturday or Friday. After all. Nascar and the NFL have a lot of time between their games. Why can't they submit to God's commands? I believe it is because it is a device of the devil to take us away from what we should do. Why can't they play on other days besides the Lord's day? They have how long to practice and repair? Go figure?
you can post your all you want. You're not hurting my feelings any but apparently I stepped on some toes. I did not accuse anyone here of being racial at all. I don't see where anyone has. I was making that point that for a person (anyone, here on PB or elsewhere) to deny that Vick's performance in the Monday night game was nothing short of spectacular, would have to be biased against Vick in some way. The reason I say this is because statistically it was proven to be one of the best NFL games every played by a QB. So then what would be the reasons someone would not give Vick his due credit? The only answer is a bias of some sort. What biases could possibly exist against Vick? Well let's see (in no particular order):
1) don't like the Eagles
2) don't like Vick because of the dog-fighting history
3) don't like the new, younger breed of NFL players
4) don't like to see a black QB (traditionally in times past a 'white' role) having success
5) this one's a stretch but maybe a Redskins fan?
If you don't exhibit any of those biases against Vick, then good, because one has no reason to, but please don't try to convince me that no one hold any of those biases because I personally know that to be untrue.
Why must there be a bias in this case? It was a game in which Vick took apart a really crappy defense.
Suppose a pitcher recorded 27 strikeouts in a game, but the game was one in which the opposing team (legally) had called up 9 of its rookie A-league players
and gave them one day contracts to play against this pitcher.
That would, statistically speaking, be the best game ever pitched.
Or would it?
Of course it wouldn't. It'd be quite remarkable, but nobody in their right mind would call that "the greatest game ever pitched". Same here (even if the situation
isn't as extreme). Greatness is measured in FAR more than yards and touchdowns.
I would agree with you that the circumstances surrounding a game should be taken into consideration and in an earlier post I conceded that a normal MNF game coulnd not compare to a playoff game or other big game, but your analogy is simply ridiculous and doesn't hold weight. The Eagles were playing a normal NFL defense not some ragtag group of guys off the streets. The Redskins are not the worst team in the NFL and as BJ mentioned the Redskins had even beaten the Eagles in their earlier meeting. Stop acting like Vick and the Eagles played some junior high team.
What biases could possibly exist against Vick? Well let's see (in no particular order):
1) don't like the Eagles
2) don't like Vick because of the dog-fighting history
3) don't like the new, younger breed of NFL players
4) don't like to see a black QB (traditionally in times past a 'white' role) having success
5) this one's a stretch but maybe a Redskins fan?
I would agree with you that the circumstances surrounding a game should be taken into consideration and in an earlier post I conceded that a normal MNF game coulnd not compare to a playoff game or other big game, but your analogy is simply ridiculous and doesn't hold weight. The Eagles were playing a normal NFL defense not some ragtag group of guys off the streets. The Redskins are not the worst team in the NFL and as BJ mentioned the Redskins had even beaten the Eagles in their earlier meeting. Stop acting like Vick and the Eagles played some junior high team.
On defense they are. That's a fact. (And their offense is 21st in the league. Not much better.) See NFL Stats.
This week will only add to the Redskins' misery, but the fact remains that Vick lit up the worst team in the NFL. Been done before. No doubt it will be done again. It was not a great game, historically speaking, by any stretch of the imagination.
He sounds great, but he hasn't done anything to be remembered as such.
This week will only add to the Redskins' misery, but the fact remains that Vick lit up the worst team in the NFL. Been done before. No doubt it will be done again. It was not a great game, historically speaking, by any stretch of the imagination.
What Vick did Monday night has been done before? I challenge you to show me when. And yeah the Redskins are last in total yards now, AFTER the Eagle game. Your stats include that game in which Vick and the Eagles racked up 592 yards of offense. Several teams would have dropped to last place after having 600 yards of O put up on them.
You're proclaiming Vick's greatness because he essentially put up the best stats in history against the professional football equivalent of a high school football team (a bad one at that). That's not great. It's just notable.
Love your new Vick pic Andreas.