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OK....granted.....The Who were ALSO viewed (at the top of their game as "studio perfect" no offence....lets stay focused....this debate is on the two TITAN bands of rock.....Stones and Beatles.The Beatles. I don't understand why there is even a debate. The Who and Led Zeppelin are also significantly better and more influential than the Rolling Stones.
The Beatles. I don't understand why there is even a debate. The Who and Led Zeppelin are also significantly better and more influential than the Rolling Stones.
The Beatles. I don't understand why there is even a debate. The Who and Led Zeppelin are also significantly better and more influential than the Rolling Stones.
The Stones were constantly playing catch up to the Beatles from the get-go. When the Beatles went psychedelic the Stones went psychedelic.
OK........OK...........Ritalin and focus time......I am ONLY dealing with the two Titans here.....Stones and Beatles.....and yes I like Zep...not the issue here Brother. The Stones and the Beatles are the two top selling bands ever in Rock...that is the threads focus!Hi:
As far as pure Rock n Roll is concerned Led Zepplin tops them both.
-CH
....I will start a thread on them ........vs Whitesnake!So, this thread isn't about Led Zeppelin?
Personally, I think Poison is better...
....I will start a thread on them ........vs Whitesnake!So, this thread isn't about Led Zeppelin?
Personally, I think Poison is better...
You drummers out there....Charlie Watts (since he was overshadowed by Jagger/Richards) is in the wors of Neil Pert of RUSH....."One of the greats...and probably one of the most underated percusionist in Rock and Roll....his style is technical perfection!"
Many drummers list Starr as an influence, including Max Weinberg of the E Street Band, Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters/Nirvana, Danny Carey of Tool, Liberty DeVitto of Billy Joel's band, Template:Bosh Berlin, Phil Collins, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater and others.[24] According to Collins, "Starr is vastly underrated. The drum fills on the song "A Day in the Life" are very complex things. You could take a great drummer today and say, 'I want it like that.' He wouldn't know what to do."[25]
In his extensive survey of The Beatles' recording sessions, Mark Lewisohn confirmed that Starr was both proficient and remarkably reliable and consistent. According to Lewisohn, there were fewer than a dozen occasions in The Beatles' eight-year recording career where session 'breakdowns' were caused by Starr making a mistake, while the vast majority of takes were stopped due to mistakes by the other three members.[24]
Starr is also considered to have advanced various modern drumming techniques (for playing and recording) such as the matched grip, placing the drums on high risers for visibility as part of the band, tuning the drums lower, and using muffling devices on tonal rings, along with his general contributions to The Beatles as a whole.[23] Specific drum parts executed by Starr in notably signature fashion include the fill that brings the drums and bass guitar into "Hey Jude", the steady rock beats in "Please Please Me" and other early Beatles recordings, the drum kit pattern through the bridge of "Hello, Goodbye", and the driving bass drum notes found in "Lady Madonna", underlying the more intricate, double-tracked snare drum. [citation needed] His use of a 'sizzle' cymbal (a cymbal incorporated with rivets that vibrate) would bring a much fuller sound than standard 'ride' cymbals.
If it got down to 80's hair-bands in fairness we would have to bring in Twisted Sister.....I will start a thread on them ........vs Whitesnake!So, this thread isn't about Led Zeppelin?
Personally, I think Poison is better...
Get a "Hair-band" thread going! I think it would have to involve Motley Crue though.
Why Beatles vs. Stones? Why not Beatles vs. Beach Boys?
Donald my Brother, with all due respect some of the truly "great" Stones Albums were FAR from primitive. When was the last time you slapped in....say...Sticky Fingers? There is amazing studio technical mastery! Listen to Dead Flowers and the interlacing guitar work of Richards and Taylor! Man it will give you shivers! Thats just good stuff!I like the Beatles and the Stones. Sure the Beatles have much farther reaching influence but as far as just keepin' on keepin on, the Stones win hands down. Granted their sound is very primative especially compared to the Beatles that's why it depends on my mood as to which I'll be listening to at a given time.
As far as the Metal debate goes, sorry no hair bands allowed in my ears. NWBHM scene for me. I was always into Saxon and Motorhead, as opposed to boys that tried to look like the covergirl of Cosmo magazine and just played party rock and then tried to call it Metal.
It is a good question:The answer is the Beatles really had no rivals...other than the Stones.Why Beatles vs. Stones? Why not Beatles vs. Beach Boys?
Hi:
As far as pure Rock n Roll is concerned Led Zepplin tops them both.
-CH