Jesus is the rock. No questioning from me there. But its later on in the verse "and the gates of Hades will not overcome it" that I want to hear some opinions on. Interpretations: 1. Gates are defensive. That means the church is attacking! Gather round, ye transformationalists, and charge! We're going to lay seige to Hell! This is the interpretation I hear all the time. It's not mine. 2. Hades means place of death (i.e. the grave). By this, Jesus means that by virtue of union with Himself, He will so fill the church with unconquerable life that death will be unable to hold us (like Christ Himself) in its power, and we will be raised to the felicity of heaven. That's my interpretation, which I think Vos helped me with. What do you think?