The Reformation and Halloween

Discussion in 'A Puritan's Mind Updates' started by C. Matthew McMahon, Oct 17, 2015.

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  1. C. Matthew McMahon

    C. Matthew McMahon Christian Preacher

    I don't believe Christians should have anything to do with Halloween. Here is an article that I think is of help on dissuading Christians from partaking, The Way of the Heathen.

    Instead, we ought to give ourselves over to studying historical theology and church history during the month of October. Check out resources on the Reformation HERE.

    [video=vimeo;72239306]https://vimeo.com/72239306[/video]
     
  2. Ryan J. Ross

    Ryan J. Ross Puritan Board Freshman

    I don't know. Have you seen the candy? It seems kind of pharisaical? It might be imprudent to pass up an opportunity to meet so many neighbors at their homes. All things to all people, right? Halloween's a thing.
     
  3. Ephrata

    Ephrata Puritan Board Freshman

    Agreed. It presents a good chance to hand out Gospel tracts AND show practical love by letting decent amounts of candy accompany them. (I may be biased, as I grew up with my family owning a costume store, and we did just that.)
     
  4. jwithnell

    jwithnell Moderator Staff Member

    What do light and darkness have in common?
     
  5. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

    In the United States we spend more money on Halloween than on our presidential elections.

    Halloween has become one of the (if not the most) greatest days of debauchery in 6th (drunkenness), 7th (lascivious costumes), and 8th (misuse of resources) Commandment ways in our culture's liturgical year.

    It is for these and other reasons that in the last 3 or 4 years we have not partaken of the day.
     
  6. Eoghan

    Eoghan Puritan Board Senior

    Although it is an American cultural tradition it is being exported. Here in the UK it totally overshadows Guy Fawkes Night which has roots in Puritan thanksgiving for the providential failure of the plot.
     
  7. Ryan J. Ross

    Ryan J. Ross Puritan Board Freshman

    They both can be produced with the flip of a switch? I'm never good with these type of riddles.

    ps. I don't honor any man-made holidays nor do I give any preference to birthdays. I celebrate 52 holy days each year with various activities held publicly, privately, and secretly. I am always open however to special occasions to be used in a holy and religious manner.
     
  8. AThornquist

    AThornquist Puritan Board Doctor

    The internet has all sorts of darkness, yet for some reason we all keep using it. Some of us happen to think that, despite various dark elements that can be experienced at Halloween, there are also various redeemable qualities and opportunities to have good clean fun. I see just as much darkness--if not more--among Christians who want to bicker about Halloween as I do among people who want to dress up in silly costumes and eat candy. But I'm sure the yearly debates about Halloween do a lot of good. ;)
     
  9. Captain Picard

    Captain Picard Puritan Board Freshman

    My bible study group is celebrating Reformation Day on the 31st this year. I'm sure some people will dress up in (non-suggestive) costume.
    I highly doubt anyone is going to feel confirmed in devil worship.
     
  10. johnny

    johnny Puritan Board Sophomore

    Just out of interest,

    Is Halloween a public holiday in America?

    In Australia, the celebration isn't taken too seriously.

    We have no specific Holiday, it lasts for about two hours in the afternoon.
    I often forget its even on, lots of the kids don't even bother wearing masks.
    Most of them carry a plastic bag to dump the lollies in.
    Parents always accompany the little ones, By 8pm its all over.
    The big winners are the supermarkets who sell all the junkfood.
     
  11. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Graduate

    No it is not a Federal holiday or anything of that sort, but it is very well observed by a great number of people.
     
  12. Elizabeth

    Elizabeth Puritan Board Sophomore

    I dunno...it seems to be as though the dark side of Halloween is rapidly eclipsing the 'light fun' aspect of it. The decorations more alarming, the costumes more grotesque, and the fervor with which some celebrate the day astounding. The darkening aspect of the day probably means more Christians should consider not taking part.

    You could just as easily go talk with your neighbors, bringing them candy, any day, year 'round. There is nothing about Halloween it makes it esp conducive to neighborly kindness/witness.
     
  13. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

  14. starchild1980200

    starchild1980200 Puritan Board Freshman

    A lot of the holidays that we celebrate have pagan origins right?

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  15. Reformed Fox

    Reformed Fox Puritan Board Freshman

    By some of the reasoning here we might as well abandon Christmas as well (as those nasty Seventeenth Century Puritans did). Both Halloween and Christmas (as observed on their respective days) are pagan holidays which were subsequently Christianized and are now being secularized. And what of Easter? The date is nicely tied to the lunar calendar but there have always been fertility elements involved, and now creeping secularism.

    Thoughts?
     
  16. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

  17. NaphtaliPress

    NaphtaliPress Administrator Staff Member

    Your new I see; it is almost time for the annual discussion of not observing xmas.
     
  18. JBaldwin

    JBaldwin Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I haven't been on here in a long time. Looks like I got back just in time :) Seriously, though, I am currently living in a third world country, and Halloween is almost a month-long celebration here, and it's very wild. I encourage people to take the time to do a little research (there's a lot out there now). Those who have converted from paganism to Christianity will tell you that they will have nothing to do it.
     
  19. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

    Good to see you!
     
  20. Clark-Tillian

    Clark-Tillian Puritan Board Freshman

    In reality, there's likely nothing more terrifying to your average American than a red-blooded, Reformed clergyman, dressed in a black suit or black robe preaching upon the realities of the Judgment Seat of Christ I cannot read people's hearts, but I preach in a small church and I can see the whites of their eyes. That, "What? These people actually believe this stuff" look on visitor's eyes is a chilling experience.
     
  21. Clark-Tillian

    Clark-Tillian Puritan Board Freshman

    Sardonic wit. And who says Calvinists cannot have fun?
     
  22. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    While I generally detest Halloween, it is good to have an accurate historical perspective on how Halloween got started and what it originally meant. I don't normally agree with Wedgeworth, as he is sympathetic to the Federal Vision, but this article is extremely thoughtful, well-reasoned, and non-hysterical. I highly advise all to read it, not least because of the close connection that Reformation Day has with Halloween vis-a-vis the indulgences issue, which is not something I had known before.
     
  23. Backwoods Presbyterian

    Backwoods Presbyterian Puritanboard Amanuensis

    I can safely bet that the man who had himself buried in an unmarked grave would probably not be keen on this paragraph.


     
  24. ZackF

    ZackF Puritan Board Graduate

    I was a moderate Halloween goer in years past but things have changed. Our family skips Halloween despite the beat down many would give us. I've had to "explain" this in several conversations with close family members. While we are not firebrands in how we deal with those who disagree, we've had to put our foot down. You would think we were torturing our daughter by denying her these festivities. We have our other scandals too. We don't do Santa nor the Easter Bunny. We haven't had Christmas trees and other decorations up in years. I suppose we are Christmas-lite types at best because our daughter gets a few gifts and we talk about the incarnation.
     
  25. Captain Picard

    Captain Picard Puritan Board Freshman

    I was raised with Santa and the Easter Bunny and find them repugnant now. Assuming future children I'm going to nix them, just like I would nix horror films or dressing up like serial killers at the end of October. It's a shame that people browbeat you over things like that. Although I also think it's a shame that Christians browbeat other Christians over celebrating the Incarnation on December 25th.
     
  26. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Professor

    I vote we wait till after "Thanksgiving" unlike the retailers.
     
  27. Elizabeth

    Elizabeth Puritan Board Sophomore

    I am already listening to Christmas music. That will stop during advent, naturally. No halloween, but we will probably be singing 'For All the Saints' Nov 1.
     
  28. robinshi

    robinshi Puritan Board Freshman

    Just read an article on reformation21 written by Collin Garbarino.
    http://www.reformation21.org/articles/halloween-a-distinctively-christian-holiday.php

    In the article the author proclaimed that the traditional idea that American Halloween traditions are based on the Celtic harvest festival of Samhain is poorly supported by the solid records we have. And it is more likely the celebration is deeply rooted in Christian tradition, probably the celebration in the eve of All Saints' Day.
    Any thoughts about this article?
     
  29. gracelife

    gracelife Puritan Board Freshman

    Your link to the resources on the Reformation is not working.
     
  30. robinshi

    robinshi Puritan Board Freshman

    weird..I just tried clicking the link and it works well.. Anyway, the article is on the frontpage on reformation21 right now. http://www.reformation21.org/
     
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