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Puritan Board Junior
I have rarely ever been very critical of John Piper's ministry, but he said something in his latest sermon entitled, Sorrowful Yet Always Rejoicing (December 30, 2012). He was saying what he thought Jesus meant in Matthew 5:13 in the context of Matthew 5:11-14. This the Bible passage in the ESV that Piper uses:
11 Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
13 You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people's feet.
14 You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden.
What Piper said can be heard on the recording at approximately minute 34:00 while the transcript on the Desiring God website does not contain his quote that can be seen below. It is common for the transcripts of his messages to be somewhat paraphrased at certain points. What Piper says in the audio version of his sermon is exactly this:
“I think what he means is... the taste... the taste of life that people are aching for is to see a person who is happy in the midst of pain who has got something so deep; so unshakable; so indomitable and invincible that, when all around their soul gives way, their joy doesn't give way. That would be so salty; so bright; so bright it would look like the glory of God on the earth. I think that is what he means. So the picture of Jesus is: Blessed are you when men persecute you and revile you. They did that to the prophets and they're gonna do it to any faithful Christian and... your reward is great in heaven... and so let that truth stream back into the moment and rejoice in hope and you will be the salt of the earth. You will be what the world needs; and even what the tastebuds of their soul are longing for and they don't know it.”
I don't really have a problem with most if what he says except for the very last sentence where he says, “You will be what the world needs; and even what the tastebuds of their soul are longing for and they don't know it.”
That which is salty in Matthew 5:13 is Christ in us. Christ shining forth in us is what makes us salty Christians and Piper seems to be saying that the tastebuds of the unsaved people of this world already desire the beauty of Christ in us and they don't even know it.
My problem with this quote is that it appears as though Piper is saying that unsaved people already desire and enjoy Christ and they only need to realize it. If this were true, it would circumvent the need for a new heart since fallen man really does desire God and he needs only to realize it to be saved and enjoy God. I think I remember Piper speaking this way in past sermons. Can anyone tell me if they find my conclusion to be faithful to Piper's message and consistent with his other teachings? If my conclusion is consistent with his teachings, can this really be consistent with the word of God?
I am already inclined to believe that everyone enjoys something of the glory of God since the whole earth is full of his glory and the goodness that unsaved people enjoy is really the goodness of God. They just don't give him the glory due to his name. What they need is to be made alive with a new heart in order to enjoy his person and not just his gifts. Could this be what Piper is aiming at?
11 Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
13 You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people's feet.
14 You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden.
What Piper said can be heard on the recording at approximately minute 34:00 while the transcript on the Desiring God website does not contain his quote that can be seen below. It is common for the transcripts of his messages to be somewhat paraphrased at certain points. What Piper says in the audio version of his sermon is exactly this:
“I think what he means is... the taste... the taste of life that people are aching for is to see a person who is happy in the midst of pain who has got something so deep; so unshakable; so indomitable and invincible that, when all around their soul gives way, their joy doesn't give way. That would be so salty; so bright; so bright it would look like the glory of God on the earth. I think that is what he means. So the picture of Jesus is: Blessed are you when men persecute you and revile you. They did that to the prophets and they're gonna do it to any faithful Christian and... your reward is great in heaven... and so let that truth stream back into the moment and rejoice in hope and you will be the salt of the earth. You will be what the world needs; and even what the tastebuds of their soul are longing for and they don't know it.”
I don't really have a problem with most if what he says except for the very last sentence where he says, “You will be what the world needs; and even what the tastebuds of their soul are longing for and they don't know it.”
That which is salty in Matthew 5:13 is Christ in us. Christ shining forth in us is what makes us salty Christians and Piper seems to be saying that the tastebuds of the unsaved people of this world already desire the beauty of Christ in us and they don't even know it.
My problem with this quote is that it appears as though Piper is saying that unsaved people already desire and enjoy Christ and they only need to realize it. If this were true, it would circumvent the need for a new heart since fallen man really does desire God and he needs only to realize it to be saved and enjoy God. I think I remember Piper speaking this way in past sermons. Can anyone tell me if they find my conclusion to be faithful to Piper's message and consistent with his other teachings? If my conclusion is consistent with his teachings, can this really be consistent with the word of God?
I am already inclined to believe that everyone enjoys something of the glory of God since the whole earth is full of his glory and the goodness that unsaved people enjoy is really the goodness of God. They just don't give him the glory due to his name. What they need is to be made alive with a new heart in order to enjoy his person and not just his gifts. Could this be what Piper is aiming at?