VerticalLiftEnjoyer
Puritan Board Freshman
Recently, I had a "discussion" with a very weird Roman Catholic woman regarding beauty. I put discussion in quotations, because when she said she found killing beautiful, it quickly devolved into me trying to convince her of her own depravity.
Looking back, it was less her thinking killing was beautiful and more her finding the circumstances beautiful--valiant last stands, dying for a lover, sacrificing thyself for a movement, etc--the same thing that influenced a lot of Romantic-era paintings (objectively beautiful) which had Napoleon or some other figure clamoring over peaceful dead bodies in picture-perfect poses; ignoring mourning mothers and the fading lives of men who'd been consigned to deaths more befitting of hospice care than young men. [this is why I cannot find beauty in war itself]
And this brings me to my question: what is the objective standard of beauty? A lot of people, when talking about the beauty of art, are actually talking about catharsis: Edvard Munch's paintings say far more than the DSM-5, and this enlightens the heart more than the eye. But what about that true beauty, when, the eye just knows that it's right? Kelly Johnson said that aircraft that look beautiful, fly beautiful. He later on called the F-117 an ugly bug, and everyone who ever saw it agreed--and so did the flight testing (which has the final say in such a statement; stealth aircraft are so unstable they cannot be flown manually)
Despite this, we know God does not despise hard-angle geometry, like polygons and the like. Contrarily, they are some of the most amazing parts of His creation!
Similarly, we know when someone colors their hair in unnatural (relative to mankind) colors, something is deeply wrong with them...
But yet, God's most beautiful creations are His most colorful ones!
So, from what evidence I've gathered, I've come to the conclusion that while these things can be made beautiful, they can easily be exploited to disgust (groundbreaking, I know). Mardi Gras is an abomination to the eyes, yet this does not make colorful dresses disgusting. Why is this so?
Thus far, the notion of the 3 transcendentals are the only real anchors I've been able to find.
What are your thoughts on this?
Looking back, it was less her thinking killing was beautiful and more her finding the circumstances beautiful--valiant last stands, dying for a lover, sacrificing thyself for a movement, etc--the same thing that influenced a lot of Romantic-era paintings (objectively beautiful) which had Napoleon or some other figure clamoring over peaceful dead bodies in picture-perfect poses; ignoring mourning mothers and the fading lives of men who'd been consigned to deaths more befitting of hospice care than young men. [this is why I cannot find beauty in war itself]
And this brings me to my question: what is the objective standard of beauty? A lot of people, when talking about the beauty of art, are actually talking about catharsis: Edvard Munch's paintings say far more than the DSM-5, and this enlightens the heart more than the eye. But what about that true beauty, when, the eye just knows that it's right? Kelly Johnson said that aircraft that look beautiful, fly beautiful. He later on called the F-117 an ugly bug, and everyone who ever saw it agreed--and so did the flight testing (which has the final say in such a statement; stealth aircraft are so unstable they cannot be flown manually)
Despite this, we know God does not despise hard-angle geometry, like polygons and the like. Contrarily, they are some of the most amazing parts of His creation!
Similarly, we know when someone colors their hair in unnatural (relative to mankind) colors, something is deeply wrong with them...
But yet, God's most beautiful creations are His most colorful ones!
So, from what evidence I've gathered, I've come to the conclusion that while these things can be made beautiful, they can easily be exploited to disgust (groundbreaking, I know). Mardi Gras is an abomination to the eyes, yet this does not make colorful dresses disgusting. Why is this so?
Thus far, the notion of the 3 transcendentals are the only real anchors I've been able to find.
What are your thoughts on this?