Van Til site: Christianciv.com

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excellent analysis of van til. Slight Reconstructionist slant, which is to be expected since the CRs are the most consistent van tillians.

 

Sorry, that was tongue in cheek, even though some respected critiques of Christian Reconstruction have said the same thing in different words. I won't push it beyond that.

 

I guess my point was this:

If you agree with Van Til that the Bible speaks to all of life authoritatively (Defense of the Faith, page 7, and you agree with the central Van Tillian premise of no neutrality, then you sound very much like a Christian Reconstructionist.

 

I just go back to the van til quote in Defense of the Faith, page 7. I ask non-theonomic van tillians to read it aloud. There are a few modern Reformed theologians who keep saying they can be van tillian and "neutral." I keep responding with "I can show you the page where Van Til explicitly repudiates that."

 

1: I am a premillennialist, so your utopian comment doesn't come close to touching my position.
2: Even if the bible's purpose wasn't to be a "blueprint" (I never said it was), it can still provide good guidance on matters of law, economics, monetary policy, sex, etc.
3: As to the "romantic American Christian past," that, too, is a non-starter (since Daniel isn't American). Anyway, we can argue quotations and sources on America's Christian past and I am comfortable of the truth of my position. But even assuming I am wrong (and I dont think I am), my original comment still stands.

 

It is not silly when it points out contradictions in someone's ethical position.

P1: I am a van tillian.
P1a: Van Til denied neutrality.
P2: I believe in neutrality.
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There is a contradiction between P1 and P2.

 

I don't think it is far-fetched. Ok, we'll compromise. It doesn't lead to Christian Reconstruction, but in the current Reformed scene such a person is using language that sounds eerily like Christian Reconstruction (and for the record, I don't really consider myself CR).

 

Yes, this summer I became historic premillennial--but I don't press it beyond that. I am a premillennialist in terms of Revelation 20 (won't debate that here) but I sound kind of postmil in terms of apologetics and cultural engagement. But yes, Russell Moore of SBTS changed my millennial position in his book, The Kingdom of Christ

 

The main problem I have with the site is that they have been promising to update it for almost 2 years now!