How would you describe the Westboro Baptist church?
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How would you describe the Westboro Baptist church?
How would you describe the Westboro Baptist church?
Mean and nasty.
I used to live 2 blocks away from Westboro when I lived in Topeka. I would pass their protestors every day on my way to work. They travelled to protest as well but had protestors out every day in Topeka. I have never met any of them but was told that the "pastor" believed in Reformed doctrines. If this is the case, it is mere intellectual assent. I would say the same thing about their belief in the gospel. The true gospel with a regenerated heart doesn't cause that type of behavior. There is much more to them than than what they broadcast (not in a good way).
Cult.
I have done a lot of research on the "Calvinism of the WBC" and in all their interviews it seems that they believe that the Gospel is not Good News but Bad News for the sinner, they never answer the question how one is saved, and if America truly wants to turn from God they must rid themselves of all homosexuals. It seems that the only way to truly repent is to have mass genocide of the gays. I definitely don't see the doctrines of grace in their theology.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THEY ARE ELECT
This is assuming they're not a plant by the left
I am usually against judging the heart of people, but I will say this with utmost conviction, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THEY ARE ELECT, THEY WILL ROAST IN THE ETERNAL FIRES OF HELL, AND IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO A NICER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
From the frying pan into the proverbial fire...If the report from the (now sadly atheist) son of Fred Phelps is true, they qualify as a cult because of the abusive dominance that Fred Phelps exerts.
Westboro appears to be hatemongers masquerading as a church.
I had occasion to write to the Westboro Baptist "Church" a few years back. Among the things I deplored them to consider was that they "Read God’s Word as a tonic, not a toxin." Their lovely response included the following:
- Not only did you serve in the ***-infested, God hating military, you BRAG about it. You've propped up the military and the flag as your idol and have far more reverence for them than you do the Lord your God.
- Your quarrel isn't with us, it's with God. God does not know you, and you're headed straight for Hell.
- By the way, you can take your title "Reverend" and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Was that supposed to be an insult? All you've done is proven your total ignorance of the scriptures. The word reverend is used one time, in reference to God, not man.
- Thanks for writing. You're going to Hell, have a nice day!
The letter was signed in this manner:
Katherine Hockenbarger
An humble Tachmonite, and thankful member of Westboro Baptist Church
I had occasion to write to the Westboro Baptist "Church" a few years back. Among the things I deplored them to consider was that they "Read God’s Word as a tonic, not a toxin." Their lovely response included the following:
Not only did you serve in the ***-infested, God hating military, you BRAG about it. You've propped up the military and the flag as your idol and have far more reverence for them than you do the Lord your God.
Your quarrel isn't with us, it's with God. God does not know you, and you're headed straight for Hell.
By the way, you can take your title "Reverend" and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Was that supposed to be an insult? All you've done is proven your total ignorance of the scriptures. The word reverend is used one time, in reference to God, not man.
Thanks for writing. You're going to Hell, have a nice day!
The letter was signed in this manner:
Katherine Hockenbarger
An humble Tachmonite, and thankful member of Westboro Baptist Church
Westboro appears to be hatemongers masquerading as a church.
I disagree. It's more along the line of a plaintiff's attorney looking for jackpots.
Curt, I believe you posted this on the Reformed Baptist Discussion list a few years ago? It looks similar
Wow! way to convict me Ben! "Great, Now I have guilt" (think of the quote from the original toy story).I don't know. I find it strange that some make pronouncements against Westboro Baptist Church with the same degree of certainty and force as is used by Westboro in their pronouncements against this nation. Even the poll options reflect a degree of certainty with which I m not entirely comfortable. I would have preferred an "I don't know" option.
What makes me uncertain about Westboro are three things. 1) While it is offensive, they nonetheless have a very clear understanding of the relationship of the military to the rest of the American culture. Thus if they want to find something wrong with America, they can "blame" the military for defending that thing with some degree of accuracy. 2) America is a jingoistic culture. Thus directing one's criticism of the culture in general towards the military specifically is a good tactic if one desires to get under the skin of the collective group. But perhaps most significantly 3) I've heard comments from some on this site critical of the US, and the military's role as accomplice, that differ with the sentiments of Westboro Baptist Church only in their choice of rhetoric. So is Westboro evil because of their choice of rhetoric? Or maybe they have a legitimate point but they are unwisely and sinfully articulating it.
But like I said, I don't know.