What is your view on creation?

Discussion in 'Natural Revelation and God's Creation' started by Bill The Baptist, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. The world was created in six literal days in the recent past

    127 vote(s)
    80.4%
  2. The world was created in the distant past and the days of creation are not literal.

    14 vote(s)
    8.9%
  3. God created the world in the distant past using evolution.

    7 vote(s)
    4.4%
  4. Not sure.

    10 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Graduate

    We are currently studying this in church and I just wanted see what the consensus, if any, was here on the PB.
     
  2. JimmyH

    JimmyH Puritan Board Junior

    Far be it from me to disagree with the Westminster Confession, much less the Holy Scriptures. I voted 6 literal days.
     
  3. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    I would vote if a choice was offered that said "The world was created in the distant past and the days of creation are literal."
     
  4. Jack K

    Jack K Puritan Board Professor

    I think six 24-hour days is most likely, but I allow for the possibility that the "days" may have been something other than that. I guess that makes me a "not sure." I think a plain reading of Scripture argues strongly for the 6/24 position, but not so strongly as to be absolutely certain.
     
  5. DMcFadden

    DMcFadden Puritan Board Doctor

    My position? Why, the biblical one of course. :lol:
     
  6. THE W

    THE W Puritan Board Freshman

    God's Word says 6 days so i'll go with that.
     
  7. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    None of the above as presented.
     
  8. Semper Fidelis

    Semper Fidelis 2 Timothy 2:24-25 Staff Member

    :lol: Only on the Puritanboard would there be a preponderance of people voting for option 1.
     
  9. MarieP

    MarieP Puritan Board Senior

    I said "not sure" only because I believe in 6-day creation but am not certain of the age of the earth. If I had to say, I lean toward young earth because I think it's a valid point that something God created would already appear to have age, but then again, maybe it didn't before the Fall. I don't think we know for sure, except that literal 6-day creation makes the best sense to me, and there are theological implications otherwise.
     
  10. THE W

    THE W Puritan Board Freshman

    Anything other than option 1 being true means the creation account in genesis is wrong, thus breaking the scriptures, foiling biblical inerrancy, and rendering the LORD to be a lier and the bible to being rubbish.
     
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  11. kodos

    kodos Puritan Board Junior

    2 people voted for this option on the PuritanBoard???
    God created the world in the distant past using evolution
     
  12. CharlieJ

    CharlieJ Puritan Board Junior

    Really? Is the Answers in Genesis crowd funded and patronized mostly by PB members?
     
  13. GloriousBoaz

    GloriousBoaz Puritan Board Freshman

    The same exactly wordage and language used for Genesis that God made the 6 days (yom in Hebrew) and rested on the seventh (yom). Is expressed in Exodus 20 where it says man shall work 6 days (yom) and rest on the 7th (yom) because God made the earth in 6 days (yom) and rested on the seventh (yom). Also
     
  14. JimmyH

    JimmyH Puritan Board Junior

    Seems it is up to 3 people now. Apparently they haven't read the membership rules regarding confessional requirements ...... or they have but changed their mind ?

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  15. Clark-Tillian

    Clark-Tillian Puritan Board Freshman

    6 Days--literally. Although, I do not consider brothers with divergent views as heretical. For me, evolutionism and the "pious myth" views are the problems.
     
  16. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    We always go 6 24 hour days, but a friend of mine put forward something I had never thought about: what was the age of the void (and what exactly was it)? That may have been around for bazillions of years...

    Still, if He did this on one day, that on another, and then rested on Sunday, a 24-hour day (same yom), then I would have to say that since the Sabbath is not 17 million years long, it is 6 24 hour days. Also, I find it interesting that it was pointed out to me once that years and months and days have astrological associations, but a week is a fairly arbitrary measure of time.
     
  17. Zach

    Zach Puritan Board Junior

    Agree with this. I think the Earth appears to be old and is young, but I do not know that for certain. But I do affirm that the Earth was created in six days.
     
  18. VictorBravo

    VictorBravo Administrator Staff Member

    I go with six literal days, but I won't say 24 hour days, because Scripture says nothing about clocks or hours at creation.

    The only timepiece at that point was "evening and morning."

    As far as the age of the void was, how do you measure time when there are no objects to mark it? If it was void, it was without time.
     
  19. SinnerSavedByChrist

    SinnerSavedByChrist Puritan Board Freshman

    BAM. What a boss answer

    Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. (Luke 11:49-51)

    Click here to see what Jesus thought of the Age of the earth...
     
  20. JonathanHunt

    JonathanHunt Puritan Board Senior

    I voted confessionally lest my mouse-clicking finger come under judgment!
     
  21. Tripel

    Tripel Puritan Board Senior

    Thanks for clearing that up. I guess the poll serves no purpose other than to show how many heretics still maintain a user ID.
     
  22. Tirian

    Tirian Puritan Board Sophomore

    Teaching our children to manipulate the days/hours concept in chapter one of the bible seems like sending the church to hell in a hand-basket. Did God really say there was an Adam?
     
  23. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    So may I assume you did not vote either?
     
  24. VictorBravo

    VictorBravo Administrator Staff Member

    I did vote, because the question spoke only of six literal days. I was hesitant on the "recent past" portion, because I don't think thousands of years ago is all that recent.

    But I went with option 1 because it was close.
     
  25. Andres

    Andres Puritan Board Doctor

    6-8k years is quite recent though compared to "hundreds of millions of years", which is generally what the evolutionists purport.
     
  26. kvanlaan

    kvanlaan Puritan Board Doctor

    See, I have no idea about the void, but it was my friend's answer to geologists saying 'billions and billions' of years.
     
  27. GloriousBoaz

    GloriousBoaz Puritan Board Freshman

    A couple of thoughts. To read up on the age of the void, look into the gap theory, which was popular in the 90's but fall apart at it's furthest logical conclusion.

    We cannot have death for millions (or billions) of years before Adam and Eve because death came into the world with sin. Creation science teaches that Adam brought death into the world, evolution teaches that death brought Adam into the world.

    Before there was anything we need to think of it as not being a big open space like outer space but literally beyond our comprehension nothingness. Outer space is something, it is not nothing, so if the void was outerspace it was something and therefore had markers. Even if i'm off base here the time piece God did give us was evening and morning which is based on the rotation of the earth which is constant, (only minor variation from then till today) and it was based on unilateral light that hit the earth, i.e. morning and evening, i.e. 24 hours.

    To also address "to God one day is like 1000 years" 2 Peter 3:8, keep reading it says "and a 1000 years is like a day" so it poetically undoes the mechanism that it just postulated, showing that is just a literary/poetic devise to demonstrate a point, not to mention that 1000 is used all over scripture to mean "a tremendous and or infinite number".

    Last thought if you add all the genealogies in Genesis up and do some math throughout scripture you will see that the earth is around 6 thousand years, assuming there are no gaps in the genealogies, but I don't believe the text gives us any reason to think there should or could be any gaps, plus if you are a native Hebrew speaker you will see an amazing message of salvation in the name in the genealogy when put all together (and no this isn't a bible code because it would have been discernible immediately if you know Hebrew, to us yes we speak English, to a Jew whose been illuminated and regenerated, no) this message would fall apart if there are gaps in the genealogies. Sorry this is rushed I just wanted to throw out some food for thought.
     
  28. Peairtach

    Peairtach Puritan Board Doctor

    I'm highly cynical about attempts to make the days of creation into long ages, as there seems little basis if any in the Scriptures for them to be taken as anything other than about 24 hours. Furthermore Day One seems to involve the creation of the first day; if the days are a figure or literary framework, we're being told about the creation of that figure on Day One, which seems a strange way of presenting things. There are theological problems with placing animal death and decay before the Fall, and also positing a creation that for years has no Head.

    There are no doubt scientific problems with the YEC position, but there are also scientific problems with the OEC position, and greater ones with theistic evolution.

    I don't know if there is a gap at the beginning between the creation of the Heavens and the Earth as a "blank canvas", and the forming and filling of the Earth and Heavens on the Six Days. I don't believe in the traditional "Gap Theory" of a previous creation being overthrown.

    The time period from Adam to today may be considerably longer than 6,000 years.

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  29. Bill The Baptist

    Bill The Baptist Puritan Board Graduate

    Yes, but considerably longer can hardly be construed to be billions of years.
     
  30. Peairtach

    Peairtach Puritan Board Doctor

    No. I didn't mean that there might be billions of years from the creation of Adam until now. At the most tens or hundreds of thousands.

    Many creationists and biblical scholars agree that there are gaps in the biblical genealogies.

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