Where WAS the Garden of Eden

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I put "other". I really doubt whether its even remotely possible to determine where the site was (although I do speculate--wildly).

I don't think either the "Tigris" or the "Euphrates" pre-flood, refer to the post-flood rivers in modern Iraq. I think Noah's flood was an act of devastation that obliterated the world that was. From the resting place of the ark on the mountains of Ararat, I think Noah and sons decended to the plains, and found a new world. They named two great rivers in their new home after two great rivers of the world they came from.
 
Nah, it was at the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates. I worked in Iraq more than two decades ago and visited the area. The Iraqi Ministry of Tourism said this on a sign in four languages:

"The Garden of Eden was bounded from this point toward the north and included what is now Babylon."

And for further revelation, about 20 yards away was "Abraham's oak", with a plaque comemorating Abraham's spot of prayer before leaving the area of Ur.

And for refreshment, you could buy a soft drink and cigarettes at the kiosk with the English name: "Abraham oaks drink and smoke here". Unfortunately, the proprietor had fled because the Iranians were scheduled to invade later in the week.

So there is the definitive authority. I'm sure Sadaam was hiding the flaming swords somewhere. . . .Er, nevermind.

Vic
 
Originally posted by victorbravo
Nah, it was at the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates. I worked in Iraq more than two decades ago and visited the area. The Iraqi Ministry of Tourism said this on a sign in four languages:

"The Garden of Eden was bounded from this point toward the north and included what is now Babylon."

And for further revelation, about 20 yards away was "Abraham's oak", with a plaque comemorating Abraham's spot of prayer before leaving the area of Ur.

And for refreshment, you could buy a soft drink and cigarettes at the kiosk with the English name: "Abraham oaks drink and smoke here". Unfortunately, the proprietor had fled because the Iranians were scheduled to invade later in the week.

So there is the definitive authority. I'm sure Sadaam was hiding the flaming swords somewhere. . . .Er, nevermind.

Vic
Been to Ur. It is modern day Jalibah. We had a huge fuel depot there during OIF I. It's a moonscape.

Also visited the spot of ancient Babylon. Very, very neat. Saddam had a huge palace on the hill overlooking the archeological site. They have a spot that claims to be the foundation of Babel.

Oh, as for the original question, I have no idea.
 
Any idea of how the garden of eden as opposed to the rest of eden played geo-politically into the pre-flood time period?
 
Originally posted by SemperFideles
Been to Ur. It is modern day Jalibah. We had a huge fuel depot there during OIF I. It's a moonscape.

Also visited the spot of ancient Babylon. Very, very neat. Saddam had a huge palace on the hill overlooking the archeological site. They have a spot that claims to be the foundation of Babel.

Oh, as for the original question, I have no idea.

Yup, Ur was pretty bad off even in 1985. The Iranians had shelled it relentlessly. I remember eating a sandwich and having a Farida (Iraqi made) beer in the shade of a huge tank rampart and watching the remaining date palms sway in the breeze.

Alas, I loved my stay there. I had complete freedom to go anywhere. You can never go back, as they say.

Vic
 
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