Coram Deo
Puritan Board Junior
I know I will get alot of HuHs and your crazy on this one....
This is more about the modesty issue pertaining to the headcovering then over the worship issue.
So I have been wondering what exactly the veil is. What is a full veil? Does it consist of face veil? And what exactly is the head? When the woman’s head is to be covered does that mean also the face?
Some research results are as follows:
Katakalupto ”Strongs 2619” to cover wholly, i.e. Veil ; cover, hide.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head. (1 Corinthians 11:5)
Radiyd “Strongs 7289” Something spread, wide wrapper or large veil; a shawl.
"And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel. For she [had] said unto the servant, What man [is] this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant [had] said, It [is] my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself." (Genesis 24:64,65)
Concerning Tamar's duplicity.
"And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which [is] by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife…And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood." (Genesis 38:14,19)
“The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.” (Song of Solomon 5:7)
Tsammah “Strongs 6777” A Veil
“Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy veil, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen.” (Isaiah 47:2-3)
Definition of Head
Head: the upper or anterior division of the body that contains the brain, the chief sense organs, and the mouth
Why do some of the earliest writings on the Headcovering from the church fathers talk about the face being covered also?
Clement of Alexandria (153-217 a.d.)
"And she will never fall, who puts before her eyes modesty, and her shawl; nor will she invite another to fall into sin by uncovering her face. For this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled.”
"It has also been commanded that the head should be veiled and the face covered. For it is a wicked thing for beauty to be a snare to men.
Tertullian (AD 198)
Let them know that the whole head constitutes "the woman." Its limits and boundaries reach as far as the place where the robe begins. The region of the veil is co-extensive with the space covered by the hair when unbound; in order that the necks too may be encircled. For it is they which must be subjected, for the sake of which "power" ought to be "had on the head:" the veil is their yoke.
…. who cover not only the head, but the face also, so entirely, that they are content, with one eye free, to enjoy rather half the light than to prostitute the entire face.
Hippolytus (170-236 a.d.)
"Canon Seventeenth. Of woman, that they should cover their faces and their heads."
What are your thoughts?????? Especially from those who already believe in the HeadCovering?
This is more about the modesty issue pertaining to the headcovering then over the worship issue.
So I have been wondering what exactly the veil is. What is a full veil? Does it consist of face veil? And what exactly is the head? When the woman’s head is to be covered does that mean also the face?
Some research results are as follows:
Katakalupto ”Strongs 2619” to cover wholly, i.e. Veil ; cover, hide.
But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head. (1 Corinthians 11:5)
Radiyd “Strongs 7289” Something spread, wide wrapper or large veil; a shawl.
"And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel. For she [had] said unto the servant, What man [is] this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant [had] said, It [is] my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself." (Genesis 24:64,65)
Concerning Tamar's duplicity.
"And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which [is] by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife…And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood." (Genesis 38:14,19)
“The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.” (Song of Solomon 5:7)
Tsammah “Strongs 6777” A Veil
“Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy veil, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers. Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen.” (Isaiah 47:2-3)
Definition of Head
Head: the upper or anterior division of the body that contains the brain, the chief sense organs, and the mouth
Why do some of the earliest writings on the Headcovering from the church fathers talk about the face being covered also?
Clement of Alexandria (153-217 a.d.)
"And she will never fall, who puts before her eyes modesty, and her shawl; nor will she invite another to fall into sin by uncovering her face. For this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled.”
"It has also been commanded that the head should be veiled and the face covered. For it is a wicked thing for beauty to be a snare to men.
Tertullian (AD 198)
Let them know that the whole head constitutes "the woman." Its limits and boundaries reach as far as the place where the robe begins. The region of the veil is co-extensive with the space covered by the hair when unbound; in order that the necks too may be encircled. For it is they which must be subjected, for the sake of which "power" ought to be "had on the head:" the veil is their yoke.
…. who cover not only the head, but the face also, so entirely, that they are content, with one eye free, to enjoy rather half the light than to prostitute the entire face.
Hippolytus (170-236 a.d.)
"Canon Seventeenth. Of woman, that they should cover their faces and their heads."
What are your thoughts?????? Especially from those who already believe in the HeadCovering?