Puritan Board Freshman
"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation … and all the angels shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4,7).
There seems to be various views of when angels were created, but I don't have time now to research it further. Some say day 1, some say before the start of this material physical earth creation, ie, before Genesis 1:1. The beginning being the start of the visible creation, but angels came before it.
If angels were here first, that affects what you think about time. They may be invisible, but that that does not make them outside time, any more than invisible radio waves are outside time. I'm not saying they are like the electromagnetic spectrum, I don't know what they are exactly, but they were created beings and we can assume if they had a beginning then they existed in time from the start.
Is there any strong Reformed position on when angels were created? Just curious, thanks. It sort of goes with the subject so I hope I am not digressing.
Little digressing, but happy to engage you and Steven @CovenantWord later on - especially if the internal YEC discussion dies a natural death here.
There is not a strong Reformed position on when angels were created outside of obvious restrictions given the verses you cited.
I do remember in Douglas Kelly's Creation and Change: Genesis 1:1 - 2:4 in Light of Changing Scientific Paradigms, there was a long section of multiple pages on the creation of angels where he quoted historical Reformers on the timing of angelic creation. However, I cannot recall a single one and my copy is physical and at home right now while I am at work. I will be happy to summarize these quotes and Kelly's thoughts later when I can get to my copy.