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Sorry Perg, I haven't had time to start a new post like you suggested on the other thread.
I see two main issues afoot: 1) if we are allowed to have a gathering to worship/hear biblical instruction on a Wednesday, and 2) is it wise to use something that is most often blasphemous as an evangelistic tool, though what we do and teach is biblical. I believe that 'yes', we are allowed to have non-holy day gatherings, and it 'depends' how a lent service is marketed. Generally I would say that I don't think it is wise, but I will leave the possibility of it open, so long as it is simply viewed as any other Wednesday night service, though there may be a particular theme (i.e., man's depravity and the Gospel) given the date.
Our church in a heavily RC neighborhood. Louisville has so many RCs that the fast food restaurants all advertisement their fish sandwiches during this time of the year (even Home Run Burgers).
So, we're thinking about having a sausage cookout every Friday during the month of March. What say ye?
I'm still thinking through these things, but I am interested in the relationship between non-holy day observances, such as Lent and Christmas. If Christmas observances are fairly normal in Protestantism, why are Lent observances seen as being so weird to many of us?
I'm still thinking through these things, but I am interested in the relationship between non-holy day observances, such as Lent and Christmas. If Christmas observances are fairly normal in Protestantism, why are Lent observances seen as being so weird to many of us?
(Lent ironically is very similar to Ramadan).
I don't know why the Catholics would go to a lenten service at a non-Catholic service anyway.
Then the superstitions observance of Lent had everywhere prevailed: for both the vulgar imagined that they thereby perform some excellent service to God, and pastors commended it as a holy imitation of Christ; though it is plain that Christ did not fast to set an example to others, but, by thus commencing the preaching of the gospel, meant to prove that his doctrine was not of men, but had come from heaven. And it is strange how men of acute judgment could fall into this gross delusion, which so many clear reasons refute: for Christ did not fast repeatedly (which he must have done had he meant to lay down a law for an anniversary fast), but once only, when preparing for the promulgation of the gospel. Nor does he fast after the manner of men, as he would have done had he meant to invite men to imitation; he rather gives an example, by which he may raise all to admire rather than study to imitate him. In short, the nature of his fast is not different from that which Moses observed when he received the law at the hand of the Lord (Exodus 24:18; 34:14:28). For, seeing that that miracle was performed in Moses to establish the law, it behoved not to be omitted in Christ, lest the gospel should seem inferior to the law. But from that day, it never occurred to any one, under pretense of imitating Moses, to set up a similar form of fast among the Israelites. Nor did any of the holy prophets and fathers follow it, though they had inclination and zeal enough for all pious exercises; for though it is said of Elijah that he passed forty days without meat and drink (1 Kings:19:8), this was merely in order that the people might recognise that he was raised up to maintain the law, from which almost the whole of Israel had revolted. It was therefore merely false zeal, replete with superstition, which set up a fast under the title and pretext of imitating Christ; although there was then a strange diversity in the mode of the fast, as is related by Cassiodorus in the ninth book of the History of Socrates: “The Romans,” says he, “had only three weeks, but their last was continuous, except on the Lord’s day and the Sabbath. The Greeks and Illvrians had, some as, others seven, but the f’ast was at intervals. Nor did they differ less in the kind of food: some used only bread and water, others added vegetables; others had no objection to fish and fowls; others made no difference in their food.” Augustine also makes mention of this difference in his latter epistle to Januarius.—Calvin, Institutes 4.12.20
Our church in a heavily RC neighborhood. Louisville has so many RCs that the fast food restaurants all advertisement their fish sandwiches during this time of the year (even Home Run Burgers).
So, we're thinking about having a sausage cookout every Friday during the month of March. What say ye?
Sage or hot?
I see two main issues afoot: 1) if we are allowed to have a gathering to worship/hear biblical instruction on a Wednesday, and 2) is it wise to use something that is most often blasphemous as an evangelistic tool, though what we do and teach is biblical. I believe that 'yes', we are allowed to have non-holy day gatherings, and it 'depends' how a lent service is marketed. Generally I would say that I don't think it is wise, but I will leave the possibility of it open, so long as it is simply viewed as any other Wednesday night service, though there may be a particular theme (i.e., man's depravity and the Gospel) given the date.
And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. -1 Cor 2: 1-4
I don't mean to sound rude but I don't understand what is so difficult to understand, Tyler. Are you genuinely ignorant of the definition of "tool" and the relevant Biblical concepts of becoming all things to all men, contextualization, Paul's use of public venues to preach, his quotation of secular writings, and his use of idols to point to the true and living God?
Hint: in the theological distinction of element and circumstance, "evangelistic tool" is synonymous with a stragetic circumstance. It is untrue to say that the Scriptures know "only of the plain preaching of the Word"; Scripture knows also of the circumstances of preaching and the means men of God have used to facilitate and buttress preaching, e.g. in the ministry of Paul.