I'm a sold out Microsoft guy. I've played around with Linux and Macs, but my heart is in Windows. I just finished getting all the parts for a new desktop PC I'm building, but I'm not too sure about Vista. I've used nearly all the Windows OS but Vista. Are there any cons to Vista? I REALLY love XP, but I've heard differing opinions about Vista. Any thoughts or experiences?
Should I Switch To Vista???
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Now yes there are, here's an article about the cons: http://www.cnet.com.au/software/operatingsystems/0,239029541,240063627-3,00.htm
There biggest con is always phoning home, there security and just Windows itself for me. I use PCLinuxOS which is very good and user-friendly.
Our College was going to use it but they are not now, there are to many problems with it. One is the security model of it.
There biggest con is always phoning home, there security and just Windows itself for me. I use PCLinuxOS which is very good and user-friendly.
Our College was going to use it but they are not now, there are to many problems with it. One is the security model of it.
Dagmire
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No, you shouldn't. It's just not worth it yet and it poses more potential threat than it does gain. Microsoft's operating systems are never actually done when they're released. Vista will need a ton of security updates and service packs. And the hardware support that it enables isn't even mainstream yet.
Stick with XP for now.
Stick with XP for now.
I am a Mac guy using a Vista Home Supreme, I will go back to Mac.......BUT, there is much I like about Vista, it is very user friendly. I have a good PC friend who still likes XP, M,Soft spent way too much money on Vista, therefore it will become the PC standard.
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SpiritAndTruth
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I was told early on to stay away from Vista, as it was purported to be riddled with problems. Since I already had XP, I figured, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
I just bought a new computer for my assistant last week, and it of course had Vista on it. It seems to work just fine (maybe they needed a few months to get the kinks worked out of it). Having said that, the word on the street is that it is not very network-friendly-- but, again, my assistant's computer is on a network here at work, and, so far, no problems...
I was impressed enough by seeing it on my assistant's computer to go ahead and install it over XP on my home computer. I like the look and feel of it, but I noticed my Outlook email client is now bogging down considerably-- it even crashes on me from time to time. I can think of no other reason as to why Outlook would not perform the way it usually has, other than some glitches in Vista, since it worked fine over XP. I imagine they'll set up patches for that as Vista matures in the marketplace.
I just bought a new computer for my assistant last week, and it of course had Vista on it. It seems to work just fine (maybe they needed a few months to get the kinks worked out of it). Having said that, the word on the street is that it is not very network-friendly-- but, again, my assistant's computer is on a network here at work, and, so far, no problems...
I was impressed enough by seeing it on my assistant's computer to go ahead and install it over XP on my home computer. I like the look and feel of it, but I noticed my Outlook email client is now bogging down considerably-- it even crashes on me from time to time. I can think of no other reason as to why Outlook would not perform the way it usually has, other than some glitches in Vista, since it worked fine over XP. I imagine they'll set up patches for that as Vista matures in the marketplace.
I was told early on to stay away from Vista, as it was purported to be riddled with problems. Since I already had XP, I figured, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
I just bought a new computer for my assistant last week, and it of course had Vista on it. It seems to work just fine (maybe they needed a few months to get the kinks worked out of it). Having said that, the word on the street is that it is not very network-friendly-- but, again, my assistant's computer is on a network here at work, and, so far, no problems...
I was impressed enough by seeing it on my assistant's computer to go ahead and install it over XP on my home computer. I like the look and feel of it, but I noticed my Outlook email client is now bogging down considerably-- it even crashes on me from time to time. I can think of no other reason as to why Outlook would not perform the way it usually has, other than some glitches in Vista, since it worked fine over XP. I imagine they'll set up patches for that as Vista matures in the marketplace.
Good point, remember all the patches for Windows 95 and then XP..........they turned out OK....I guess.
Tirian
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I just installed it yesterday onto my Dell Dimension 9150 which I spec'd up to the maximum spec you could get when I bought it 6 months ago. First impressions: nice interface, user friendly, nearly everthing auto detected (device wise) and installed current drivers etc - but 20-40% slower in operation than XP.
If you are going to install it, make sure you have a really good graphics card as I understand it's graphically intensive and that contributes to the overall slow performance if you dont have a good card in it.
Matt
If you are going to install it, make sure you have a really good graphics card as I understand it's graphically intensive and that contributes to the overall slow performance if you dont have a good card in it.
Matt
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SpiritAndTruth
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Good point, remember all the patches for Windows 95 and then XP..........they turned out OK....I guess.
Exactly. How quickly we forget that everyone said that XP was a "disaster" when it first came out, too. Eventually, they worked out most of the bugs...
Yep, it is slower, due to more graphics. Most people I've talked to said the graphics-to-processing-speed ratio is unacceptable. To each his own-- depends on your hardware, I guess.
One other unwelcome note on Vista that I forgot to mention: once installed, my Opera and Internet Explorer browsers were both rendered incapable of connecting to the internet. Mozilla Firefox works just fine. Ironic, isn't it? You'd think they would have ensured that Explorer would work, but not the others.
You want MORE irony? I was able to get Opera to connect, but not MICROSOFT Internet Explorer!!!!!
Has this happened to anyone else?
Why would the installation of a new OS change the existing settings on ANY browser?!?!?!
I got it for free as I had just gotten two new Computers late last year. I'm very happy with it generally. Some of the tighter security features were causing some issues so I turned them off until the programs catch up to it.
I've become a bit addicted to the Windows Explorer that comes with it.
I've become a bit addicted to the Windows Explorer that comes with it.
Greg
Puritan Board Sophomore
What about Vista Basic? I've heard that it isn't as graphics intensive as the Premium addition of Vista.
It is worth it to get Premium.
Greg
Puritan Board Sophomore
It is worth it to get Premium.
Hi Max,
Besides the graphics, what other advantages does premium have over basic?
To be REALLY honest! It is the graphics that I know to be an issue, I just started using PC a few weeks ago, I have been a Mac-Head, there are other PB people who might point out reasons for the Premium over this..........in any event my Toshiba Laptop cam with the Premium.
jbergsing
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Absolutely install Vista on that machine. It is a far superior OS than XP is/was in every way. Drawbacks? Make sure you have plenty of memory. For Premium, 1GB minimum. I'm running 2GB with a Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7200 and it runs beautifully.
Can I take a moment to say "Bravo" to MS for finally releasing an upgrade to Office97 that's worth purchasing? Office '07 is finally what MS has been promising Office should be. After 10 years, I will finally plop down the money for an upgrade after the trial time is up.
Can I take a moment to say "Bravo" to MS for finally releasing an upgrade to Office97 that's worth purchasing? Office '07 is finally what MS has been promising Office should be. After 10 years, I will finally plop down the money for an upgrade after the trial time is up.
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jbergsing
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I've heard some nightmares about upgrading. I knew my old machine wouldn't run Vista so bought mine preinstalled.
As an old Mac-Head, when OS 10 came out most who were running OS 9 bought new machines built "around" the new operating system, same with Vista, it may sound brutal but.....technology is moving fast and sometimes hardware becomes (for all practical purposes) obsolete due to software.
Scott
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It has all sorts of weird problems. For example, a lot of people have experienced problems when they try to write an email. When they check the spelling it says it does not recognize that language.
Anyway, you just have to be willing to accept a lot of weird problems.
Chuckle....been there done it however the solution was easy and painless!It has all sorts of weird problems. For example, a lot of people have experienced problems when they try to write an email. When they check the spelling it says it does not recognize that language.
Anyway, you just have to be willing to accept a lot of weird problems.
ReformedWretch
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I've been holding off, but some of you may have convinced me to try it. My machine top of the line -
3Ghz processor
3 gig RAM
400gig hard drive
so I wouldn't think up grading should be an issue...
3Ghz processor
3 gig RAM
400gig hard drive
so I wouldn't think up grading should be an issue...
x.spasitel
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I run Vista, but cosmetically modified. For instance, I do not run the Aero theme - it's a resource hog and it's ugly and I don't need it. I've also turned off User Account Control (UAC) which is an enormous pain to go through each time you want to do a trivial task. Much simpler is the way I've set up my computer: I always access from a limited account, and have an administrator account in reserve if I should ever need to do administrator tasks. I don't use the Mail program, sticking instead to my trusty Gmail. I use Firefox instead of IE. I do have the new Office programs - they're a pain to get used to, but overall more sensibly set out than the old Office. And of course, they're still working out the bugs -- but as long as I have my computer set to download all updates at 3 in the morning every day, that doesn't affect me at all. Still, it's not an absolute necessity. I only got Vista because I was getting a new computer and that was what's on offer. XP should work perfectly fine for the next 5+ years.
Tirian
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Well, I'm 5 days into my Vista/Office 97 upgrade now and I have to say I love it. Despite my initial feelings around it being slower, in practial every day use I have not found that to be a real problem, it even seems faster sometimes.
My machine is an OK spec - 3.2ghz due core, 300gig, 2G ram and radeon 1900 graphics. Modest I guess by todays standard though the machine is only 6 months old.
Matt
My machine is an OK spec - 3.2ghz due core, 300gig, 2G ram and radeon 1900 graphics. Modest I guess by todays standard though the machine is only 6 months old.
Matt
historyb
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Makes me happy to hear, thought I was the only one that got away from the evil empire.
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