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Anyone know why all seminaries require a Bachelor's degree for admission? How is an ordinary Joe to get an in-depth training and knowledge of scripture, church history, theology, apologetics, etc without shelling out $ for a Masters level diploma?
Why are you opposed to earning a Bachelor's degree?
All I've been able to find are 1 year Certificate programs which is great for a lay person seeking to expand his knowledge not for someone who is called to full time ministry.
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Why are you opposed to earning a Bachelor's degree?
I'm 41 and I don't have the time to spend the next 4 years getting a Bachelor's degree in Bible. I'm interested in a seminary level education without the degree.
I'm 41 and I don't have the time to spend the next 4 years getting a Bachelor's degree in Bible. I'm interested in a seminary level education without the degree.
I know it's just a typo - but in context, that's pretty funny (as typos often can be!)you not be ignorant.
I think it would be easier to answer your question if we knew, what denomination you were in and where you live. There are many programs designed for men just like you. And when you were finished you not be ignorant.
Bad idea to get a seminary training without an undergrad degree. Among other things, writing papers on assorted topics for three or four years beforehand is great training for the rigours of sermon preparation in the ministry.
Bad idea to get a seminary training without an undergrad degree. Among other things, writing papers on assorted topics for three or four years beforehand is great training for the rigours of sermon preparation in the ministry.
That is what I was thinking. I have no formal theological training, but I am an academic. I was wondering if entering seminary having not had the academic experience of undergraduate work would make it all the more difficult to deal with the rigors of reading and writing in seminary. Obviously, we are talking about the "non-spiritual" aspects of ministerial training.
Depending on your academic experience, a bachelor’s degree may not necessarily prepare you the rigors of seminary. It really does depend on what your degree was and the types of liberal arts classes that you took in college. I know I did not write many papers in college.
Bad idea to get a seminary training without an undergrad degree. Among other things, writing papers on assorted topics for three or four years beforehand is great training for the rigours of sermon preparation in the ministry.
There certainly are men who have lead the Church without the formal seminary education:I disagree with this because some of our Elder Brethren, Charles Spurgeon for one, never had any formal secondary education, or formal theological education.
I'm 41 and I don't have the time to spend the next 4 years getting a Bachelor's degree in Bible. I'm interested in a seminary level education without the degree.
There certainly are men who have lead the Church without the formal seminary education:I disagree with this because some of our Elder Brethren, Charles Spurgeon for one, never had any formal secondary education, or formal theological education.
Martin Lloyd-Jones, Charles Spurgeon, William Jay, John Brown of Haddington, John Bunyan, Augustine, Howell Harris, D.L. Moody, A.W. Tozer, C.J. Mahaney
But i would say that is an exception rather than the rule.
I'm 41 and I don't have the time to spend the next 4 years getting a Bachelor's degree in Bible. I'm interested in a seminary level education without the degree.
I'm 42 with 4 kids and am an Active Duty Marine with significant responsibilities. You have less time than I?
Anyone know why all seminaries require a Bachelor's degree for admission? How is an ordinary Joe to get an in-depth training and knowledge of scripture, church history, theology, apologetics, etc without shelling out $ for a Masters level diploma?
DISCLAIMER:
I am not comparing myself to Spurgeon.
END DISCLAIMER
I disagree with this because some of our Elder Brethren, Charles Spurgeon for one, never had any formal secondary education, or formal theological education.
I'm 41 and I don't have the time to spend the next 4 years getting a Bachelor's degree in Bible. I'm interested in a seminary level education without the degree.
I'm 42 with 4 kids and am an Active Duty Marine with significant responsibilities. You have less time than I?
I am not trying to defend Robert’s statement, but let us consider the issue of time and his age Rich. He is currently 41, if he gets a B.S. or B.A. in four years that would imply it would be 45 by the time he be ready to meet Bachelor requirement for seminary. Now add on top of that the reality that it is taking longer even for single seminary students compared to the standard two year expectation for earning a Masters. In many cases being four years before the M.Div is actually earned. If such is a case for Robert, then that will place him at about 49 before he could receive a calling or any other high application to his education. And it seems to me unless you’re already planted in a church and doing ministry within that church, it is much more difficult for a non-experienced older person to enter into say the pastoral ministry compared to a younger man in his 30s. That is at least the trend or rule that I see.
According to your signature list Rich, you are currently a seminary student, he is not yet one. You are already ahead of him in pursuing his education. I do not think he was referring to time in relation to responsibilities, but in regards to his age and the reality of the church using him in relation to that education. He can correct me if am wrong.
So why even try to get the education? Because I think it is a requirement for the church to teach these things anyway as being disciples of Christ in fulfilling the Great Commission and for those within the church to learn these things regardless of the level of Christian service one is providing. Now I am going to restrain a rant because it leading off topic of this thread.
There certainly are men who have lead the Church without the formal seminary education:I disagree with this because some of our Elder Brethren, Charles Spurgeon for one, never had any formal secondary education, or formal theological education.
Martin Lloyd-Jones, Charles Spurgeon, William Jay, John Brown of Haddington, John Bunyan, Augustine, Howell Harris, D.L. Moody, A.W. Tozer, C.J. Mahaney
But i would say that is an exception rather than the rule.
There certainly are men who have lead the Church without the formal seminary education:I disagree with this because some of our Elder Brethren, Charles Spurgeon for one, never had any formal secondary education, or formal theological education.
Martin Lloyd-Jones, Charles Spurgeon, William Jay, John Brown of Haddington, John Bunyan, Augustine, Howell Harris, D.L. Moody, A.W. Tozer, C.J. Mahaney
But i would say that is an exception rather than the rule.
I think this is the exception mainly because we are so Western. Some think college is the stepping stone to everything. I think college is overrated.