Afterthought
Puritan Board Senior
Dual revelation is the view that the facts of Scripture and facts of Creation are both equally given by the revelation of God (just as Ezra is equally revelation with 1 John), and so are on equal footing in terms of authority, never contradicting each other. Hence, the interpretation of Scripture and the interpretation of Creation will never contradict each other if the interpretations are correct, and the interpretation of Scripture and interpretation of Creation are on equal footing. Hence, if there is a contradiction between the two, one or the other interpretations must be wrong.
Are there any thoughts on this concept and/or the support for this concept? The arguments usually rely on such things as...
(1) God is the author of both Scripture and Creation, so there should be no reason they should contradict each other, they are on equal authority, etc.
(2) Truth is truth, wherever it is found. A property of truth being non-contradiction, Creation and Scripture can never contradict, and hence true interpretations thereof never contradict, etc.
(3) Scripture is special revelation and Creation is general revelation. God never reveals contradictory things, so Scripture and Creation should not contradict each other, etc. (This is related to (1) and is probably where the name "dual revelation" comes from.)
However, it seems that (3)-(4) misunderstand general revelation (understood as the thing by which revelation is given). General revelation is supposed to reveal God, not Creation. It is God's revelation of Himself in nature, not God's revelation of nature in nature. So the terms of this question are confused from the outset. Nevertheless, there may be Scriptural support in Psalm 19, and even conceding the view that general revelation is a distinct concept from the "nature" that is the object of empirical scientific study, it seems the argument might be strengthened a bit and some of the arguments remain untouched by this observation (though the view of Creation and Scripture as being revelation of God in the manner first proposed needs to be modified accordingly), since they do not necessarily entail the view that Scripture and Creation are both given by revelation? So the new set of arguments would be:
(1) God is the author of both Scripture and Creation, so there should be no reason they should contradict each other, they are on equal authority, etc.
(2) Truth is truth, wherever it is found. A property of truth being non-contradiction, Creation and Scripture can never contradict, and hence true interpretations thereof never contradict, etc.
(3') Psalm 19 specifically says that the "works of God's hands" or God's "handiwork" are revealed. Hence, God reveals not only Himself in nature but also the world and men, and the conclusions follow.
(4) It may be the case that God reveals Himself in nature, rather than nature, but if the facts of nature aren't revealed as well ("along for the ride", as it were), then the revelation of God in nature cannot occur. The means of God revealing Himself is nature, so in order to reveal Himself, the means being facts themselves, the means are necessarily revealed too.
(5) Not to mention that if the means weren't revealed, there could be a potential distortion of general revelation, even if those to whom it was revealed were sinless. Finitude and fallibility would keep men from knowing the facts of nature perfectly, e.g., an incorrect scientific theory would reveal something different about God than a correct scientific theory, but incorrect scientific theories are bound to occur in an empirical investigation of a non-verbal Creation.
My own thoughts in response to (1)-(2) are that they can be admitted as true. As an example case, Scripture shouldn't contradict reason or the senses (under proper conditions). However, the idea that contradiction means the interpretation of one or the other is incorrect can only be admitted as a logical possibility (there is reason to believe that empirical science will contradict special revelation anyway since they speak to different knowledge realms, so the conclusion doesn't follow anyway, but for the sake of discussion, I'd like to leave this point out). In reality, our interpretation of Scripture is more likely to be true than our interpretation of Creation for several reasons, such as Scripture being verbal, more clear, and having the Holy Spirit's illumination.
And further, what does it mean for Creation and Scripture to contradict each other? Creation is non-verbal. Its data must be organized to come up with a proposition. Scripture needs to be interpreted too, but its data is verbal data, so it is one interpretive step removed from empirical scientific propositions. So it seems a bit odd to speak of Creation and Scripture as having the same authority anyway or that our interpretations of them have the same level of authority (there may be other reasons this is the case, but I'm not quite sure what it is; there may be an equivocation somewhere as often occurs with things that seem reasonable on the surface).
As a further question then, would my understanding of these matters be correct in my response? If so, I have another question about the clarity of general revelation and special revelation given sin, but I have probably packed enough into a thread OP for now.
Are there any thoughts on this concept and/or the support for this concept? The arguments usually rely on such things as...
(1) God is the author of both Scripture and Creation, so there should be no reason they should contradict each other, they are on equal authority, etc.
(2) Truth is truth, wherever it is found. A property of truth being non-contradiction, Creation and Scripture can never contradict, and hence true interpretations thereof never contradict, etc.
(3) Scripture is special revelation and Creation is general revelation. God never reveals contradictory things, so Scripture and Creation should not contradict each other, etc. (This is related to (1) and is probably where the name "dual revelation" comes from.)
However, it seems that (3)-(4) misunderstand general revelation (understood as the thing by which revelation is given). General revelation is supposed to reveal God, not Creation. It is God's revelation of Himself in nature, not God's revelation of nature in nature. So the terms of this question are confused from the outset. Nevertheless, there may be Scriptural support in Psalm 19, and even conceding the view that general revelation is a distinct concept from the "nature" that is the object of empirical scientific study, it seems the argument might be strengthened a bit and some of the arguments remain untouched by this observation (though the view of Creation and Scripture as being revelation of God in the manner first proposed needs to be modified accordingly), since they do not necessarily entail the view that Scripture and Creation are both given by revelation? So the new set of arguments would be:
(1) God is the author of both Scripture and Creation, so there should be no reason they should contradict each other, they are on equal authority, etc.
(2) Truth is truth, wherever it is found. A property of truth being non-contradiction, Creation and Scripture can never contradict, and hence true interpretations thereof never contradict, etc.
(3') Psalm 19 specifically says that the "works of God's hands" or God's "handiwork" are revealed. Hence, God reveals not only Himself in nature but also the world and men, and the conclusions follow.
(4) It may be the case that God reveals Himself in nature, rather than nature, but if the facts of nature aren't revealed as well ("along for the ride", as it were), then the revelation of God in nature cannot occur. The means of God revealing Himself is nature, so in order to reveal Himself, the means being facts themselves, the means are necessarily revealed too.
(5) Not to mention that if the means weren't revealed, there could be a potential distortion of general revelation, even if those to whom it was revealed were sinless. Finitude and fallibility would keep men from knowing the facts of nature perfectly, e.g., an incorrect scientific theory would reveal something different about God than a correct scientific theory, but incorrect scientific theories are bound to occur in an empirical investigation of a non-verbal Creation.
My own thoughts in response to (1)-(2) are that they can be admitted as true. As an example case, Scripture shouldn't contradict reason or the senses (under proper conditions). However, the idea that contradiction means the interpretation of one or the other is incorrect can only be admitted as a logical possibility (there is reason to believe that empirical science will contradict special revelation anyway since they speak to different knowledge realms, so the conclusion doesn't follow anyway, but for the sake of discussion, I'd like to leave this point out). In reality, our interpretation of Scripture is more likely to be true than our interpretation of Creation for several reasons, such as Scripture being verbal, more clear, and having the Holy Spirit's illumination.
And further, what does it mean for Creation and Scripture to contradict each other? Creation is non-verbal. Its data must be organized to come up with a proposition. Scripture needs to be interpreted too, but its data is verbal data, so it is one interpretive step removed from empirical scientific propositions. So it seems a bit odd to speak of Creation and Scripture as having the same authority anyway or that our interpretations of them have the same level of authority (there may be other reasons this is the case, but I'm not quite sure what it is; there may be an equivocation somewhere as often occurs with things that seem reasonable on the surface).
As a further question then, would my understanding of these matters be correct in my response? If so, I have another question about the clarity of general revelation and special revelation given sin, but I have probably packed enough into a thread OP for now.
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