Originally posted by Puritanhead
Fact? Actually, you have no way of proving that Hemmings relationship Keon... it was all fanciful speculation perfectly fit for the Clinton era-- when taking the founders and rolling them in the mud was fashionable, because all of our
high and mighty in our-time were scoundrel adulterers (i.e. Kennedy, Clinton, Gingrich).
Political newspapers during the 1790s and 1800s were poisonous in their rhetoric... The Federalists hated Republican journalists for their muckracking so much that they tried to get them jailed for libelous speech all of the time. Washington was said to ride into Washington
saddling an ass, so the caricatures were obviously crude. It was in this poisonous political environment that Federalist newspapers in the northeast countered with blistering attacks on southerners, accusing them of miscegeny, because it was taboo to the New Englander. They liked to confirm their worst suspicions of one another in sensationalist editorials, comics and commentary... Jefferson was said to be the guillotine-welding atheist infidel of the south who consorted with his slaves, which gave cause for derision among New Englanders. You can hate someone more if you presume the worst of them, and they wanted to geniunely hate one another.
When Clinton's revelations of adulterous affairs boiled over-- it was in this environment that sensationalists sought to revive the old Jefferson smear. It was more likely that Jefferson's father had consorted with a slave giving rise to Sally Hemming, which could explain any DNA markers. Though that evidence remains very questionable and is perhaps tainted... I don't want to spell out the implications of what it means for T. Jefferson to have an affair give his father having blood ties to Sally's parent. I doubt very seriousl that it is true. His notes on Virginia convey a subtle racism-- which I believe preclude the feasibility of his desire to take a slave as a mistress.
You're also in error saying Jefferson wrote the Constitution. Jefferson was missing in action, and serving as a diplomat in France, and merely watched the drafting and ratification of the Constitution as a spectator based on what he heard in correspodence. His pragmatic hope was that the circumstances would work out as such that a Constitution and a Bill of Rights would receive a simultaneous adoption, even if it means holdout states obstructing the initial ratification. He was only an observer. Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Indepence.
Get your facts straight!
[Edited on 5-18-2006 by Puritanhead] [/quote]
While I will agree that the far left love to pick on Jefferson and deconstruct the mythical glorication of our founders that in no way proves that Jefferson did not copulate with his slave girl. Fact is many slave owners copulated with their slaves. Their slaves were their property. Heck, all men have urges, and these urges become more manifest if men have total control over another being. Check out the Greeks and the Romans and their orgies. And of course Enron, Tyco and Adelphia. Moral constraints become weakened when a person's power increases.
Anyway here are some propositions in relation to the DNA evidences of Jefferson and his descendents.
DNA Test offer Evidence that Jefferson Fathered..
That being said, in the light of Jefferson's Deistic and sexual impropriety, whilst being held in the highest esteem, the left and the clintonians had all right to use this to manifest the hypocrisy of the right when the clinton-lewinsky scandal broke.
As for subtle racism precluding the possibility of interracial sex, that is pure bunk. Almost all African Americans in recent studies have shown to carrying DNA of european ethnicity and there is still a potent degree of racism an anti interracial marriage sentiments in America today, and how much more back then. And what Jefferson wrote wasn't subtle racism. That's an understatement.
Fact is a person could be a racist and still have sex with a person of another race. Proof, Strum Thurmond. Ironically he had sex with a female maid. And evidences must be brought to bear to extricate Jefferson and indict his father in this charge. And so far I've seen nothing that suggests this. Jefferson stands guilty in light of the DNA evidences.
But what I know is that Jefferson was waay too smart for his own good, and could have deceived many and he still does to this day, in having them believe he was a mother theresa.
And I did err by saying Jefferson wrote the constitution when in actuality it was the declaration of independence. But really, he plagarized the declaration of independence.
Calling people 'brainwashed neocons' sure gets them lined up on your side. As much as I like to read, articles (or threads) that constantly berate turn me off. There is a way to say things that can be challenging yet provocative.
then the facts proved otherwise.
Puritanhead
