Hermeneutics/ Wrong conclusions?

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I believe it is the Historical grammatical interpretation of scripture that It is commonly suggested and agreed upon among our Reformed circles. My question is, why all the different conclusions?

It can start of with a Calvinistic soteriology with a bent towards a particular confession, then come all the confusion and debate for ecclesiology, eschatology; with all the little nuances in between.

Shouldn't a particular hermeneutic provide consistent conclusions in all areas of theology?


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This is not a simple input output function for several reasons. First, God Himself says scripture is not equally clear. You will see consistency in what the basic gospel is, less consistency where we have less info: lapsarianism anyone? Secondly, finite, sinful men come to the scriptures.It seems like a lot of disagreement or errors occur when man has an opportunity to exault himself. God waiting around for man to "choose" Him is a highly egregious example. Third, it's hard to escape our axiomatic perspectives.
 
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Theoretically, since truth is single or unified, mutual and equal submission to the truth and to proper methods should lead to common, correct conclusions.

But, 1) people, even born-again Christians, are not identically constituted or formed, nor ideally reprogrammed upon conversion; but are transformed slowly by the renewing of their minds, Rom.12:2.

And 2) we are both sinful and fallible, neither of which factors is removed by regeneration.

It is also true that when we come to varying conclusions, this can be an important clue that regardless of surface-level commonalities, many people who think (sincerely) they are on the same page as others, in fact are not.

I sometimes use the "baptism" dispute as a paradigm case. The happy reality is that on many vital points of doctrine, Presbyterians and Baptists stand on much the same high ground. But we got there by two divergent, distinguishable hermeneutical routes; and the stakes we've driven in our respective surveys mapping the lay of the land do not coincide.

No, not all roads lead to God or good theology given enough time and patience. But often there is enough compatibility at a deep enough level to allow for good cooperation of a kind. We don't always have that; we should be thankful when it is found.

G-H interpretation is not a GPS kind of tool. It is a tool, and people don't always use it in the same way. It is an important tool, but there are different limits and guides various people employ when using G-H methods. Some folks use G-H interpretation narrowly construed to "squeeze out" of consideration ordinarily valid conclusions. G-H interpretation, combined with a "literalist" predilection or "dispensational" grid of pre-understanding gives a very different outcome in eschatology for sure; and sometimes also in considering which parts of Scripture are suitable for teaching or organizing in the NT era.

A covenant-theologian like myself sees the need to use G-H interpretation to make a map for navigation, combined with CT presuppositions (since I think that's the Bible's own "grid"), and a redemptive-historical lens (Christological) to focus the effort.

Biblical interpretation is serious, deep business; which is why we argue about it. Mathematicians argue. Geologists argue. People contend for things they have passion for. And people can share basic agreements, and still dispute over conclusions. Nor does the best idea always win out and win over. Knowledge can be irretrievably lost, unless God exists.

Hope this is helpful.
 
I agree with Bruce.

I'll also add that the grammatico-historical method is not the sole hermeneutical principle of the Reformed. That GH method deals more with the exegesis of the text stating that the method of interpreting a text is not some fourfold method of determining meanings above the meaning of a text using the ordinary means of reading literature. This helps to undergird how the tools of syntax are used properly but then there are other principles that come into play. A couple of other principles that are key to understanding Reformed hermeneutics are the ideas of "Scirpture interpreting Scripture" and the archetypal/ectypal distinction. The former idea is that God's Word is to be understood in a Biblical Theological as well as a Systematic whole. This actually informs exegesis of particular texts because Greek syntax (like any other syntax) requires some broader knowledge of the point that a person is making to understand how a particular verb or noun is to be understood. The second idea is the conviction that God knows Himself a se and our knowledge is analogical. We know things by Revelation and not by philosophically climbing to God's knowledge using human reason.
 
I cant thank you enough for the detailed response.
It seems biblical illiteracy really is our problem. The baptismal dispute on the other hand may very well be my paradigm for consistency as well. Im glad you pointed that out


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I agree with Bruce.

I'll also add that the grammatico-historical method is not the sole hermeneutical principle of the Reformed. That GH method deals more with the exegesis of the text stating that the method of interpreting a text is not some fourfold method of determining meanings above the meaning of a text using the ordinary means of reading literature. This helps to undergird how the tools of syntax are used properly but then there are other principles that come into play. A couple of other principles that are key to understanding Reformed hermeneutics are the ideas of "Scirpture interpreting Scripture" and the archetypal/ectypal distinction. The former idea is that God's Word is to be understood in a Biblical Theological as well as a Systematic whole. This actually informs exegesis of particular texts because Greek syntax (like any other syntax) requires some broader knowledge of the point that a person is making to understand how a particular verb or noun is to be understood. The second idea is the conviction that God knows Himself a se and our knowledge is analogical. We know things by Revelation and not by philosophically climbing to God's knowledge using human reason.

Painstaking , and humbling! Thank you for that. A lot of ignorance on my part but also confident to hear from men who labour these truths


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