Originally posted by fredtgreco
How can you logically have sin and sinners before the Fall is even contemplated/decreed?
By making the fall the MEANS to something else!
God desired to redeem sinners (i.e. to elect and reporbate people), and therefore IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, he decrees the fall.
[Edited on 1-6-2006 by Jeff_Bartel]