Penal Substitution and Nestorianism Question

[terry43]

I know I said that. Problem is you can’t start from there. Only having it is incomplete. Not having it is incomplete. Starting from it is erroneous.

Please explain what is incomplete in this theory?

 

[Timmay]

Please explain what is incomplete in this theory?

It doesn’t save anyone. Only makes salvation possible.

It doesn’t pay the penalty for sin or satisfy God’s wrath.


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[terry43]

It doesn’t save anyone. Only makes salvation possible.

It doesn’t pay the penalty for sin or satisfy God’s wrath.


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Would you place this theology as RC?

 

[Timmay]

Would you place this theology as RC?

RC meaning Roman Catholic? No, it is Eastern Orthodox.


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[Dachaser]

Strange, I just questioned my Pastor on this Sunday with reference to the apostle creed and His promise to the thief.The pastor did not have a great answer and left me with continuing questions when he said "some say that Christ went to hell to pay for our sin" Which I totally deny .. also has been my thought that the humanity of Christ dies on the cross and was later resurrected ... The humanity (body) laid lifeless in the grave while the divinity remained ... did that divinity to go hell? go to Sheol ? go to paradise?

Jesus would have had his physical body dead and buried, but would still be in hades with natures of God and sinless Humanity....

 

[Tom Hart]

Jesus would have had his physical body dead and buried, but would still be in hades with natures of God and sinless Humanity....

What do you mean by "in hades"?

 

[Dachaser]

What do you mean by "in hades"?

Jesus never would have actually gone to hell, despite the Creed, as He would have been in Hades itself, or Sheol, basically the domain of the dead.

 

[RamistThomist]

Jesus never would have actually gone to hell, despite the Creed, as He would have been in Hades itself, or Sheol, basically the domain of the dead.

The writers of the Creed meant Sheol, not Infernus.