Rick Warren's Peace Plan

[RamistThomist]

Am I being presumptious, or misreading, or is Rick Warren talking about partnering with the Union Nations?

The UN supports and subsidizes government forced sterilization and forced abortion in the Second and Third World—mostly with American tax dollars.

Rushdoony foresaw this 30 years ago.

 

[Blue Tick]

What do mean, that the man’s mind isn’t sanctified? He is not a Christian, is that what you mean?

What I mean is that his mind needs to be sanctified in the truth of what the role of the Church is in society. I wasn't implying that he was not a Christian. Obviously his ecclesiology is off base, therefore his mind needs to be renewed in what the role of the church is.

 

[ajrock2000]

Asa, your a real black and white kind a guy, aren't you?

Is not the Word of God black and white?

Jeremiah 23:16-17
Thus says the LORD of hosts: "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. They say continually to those who despise the word of the LORD, 'It shall be well with you'; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, 'No disaster shall come upon you.'"

Jeremiah 8:11-12
They have healed the wound of my people lightly,saying, 'Peace, peace,' when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they committed abomination?, they were not at all ashamed;they did not know how to blush.
Therefore they shall fall among the fallen; when I punish them, they shall be overthrown, says the LORD.

It does not take a smart person to see that Rick Warren does exactly this. I am not overly condemning type of person. When it comes to salvation, I am very adamant about prosperity gospels and the danger they have, and that so many people are told they are saved for praying a prayer. This is very serious, and to me, the end does not justify the means.

By the way, I will not support Darwinfish 1%, I think he might be a false prophet and his Gospel is no Gospel at all. All Darwinfish has to do is read the Bible and see that he is preaching untruth. What are you doing endorsing him!?

I told you not to say anything about Fish! I do not support him at all! All I wanted was for you to see what Rick Warren says and the lies that he teaches (as I told you before).

Read a sermon/lesson here from the mouth of Rick Warren. Don't just listen to the blogosphere, judge from his own words:

http://pddocs.purposedriven.com:8088/pdf/campaign_previews/Week_One_Rick_Warren_Sermon_Outline.pdf

He can say whatever He wants to say, but his ending ruins everything where Jesus is made out to be a cosmic santa clause begging for your heart.

Let’s bow our heads – You know God had a purpose in bringing you here today. He wants you to know Him and He wants you to know His purposes for you. So talk to Him. You don’t have to use any fancy words. If you don’t know what to say, just follow me in this prayer…just go “Me too, God”.

“Dear God, I realize that if it weren’t for you, I wouldn’t be alive. But because you made me, you must have a purpose for me. I admit that I focused on my plans for my life, not yours. But I want to know your purposes for me, so I commit the next 40 days of my life to learning about it. Thank you that you made me so you could love me. Thank you that you cared for me even when I didn’t know you. Thank you that I was made to last forever. I want a life filled with meaning. I want to start by getting to know you better. So as best as I understand, I ask you, Jesus Christ, to come into my life and help me to understand your purposes for me. I want to take the first step today. In your name I pray, Amen.”

This sort of foolishness has deceived so many, and the answer it not to support him because, "some of what he says is good".

Edit: From an initial glance and skim. Where is the promotion of the glory of God in this sermon? It is all about finding out your worth, and that we are created because God wants to love us. This sermon glorifies and promotes man, and puts the key in mans hand, not God's. Where is the call to repentance? Where is our depravity and inability mentioned? Instead look at what Warren says,

I realize that all of us here tonight are at different stages in our spiritual journey. That doesn’t matter. We’re all going to go through this journey together, no matter what stage you are in. Some of you are seekers, and you’re saying, “I’m not even sure I buy this, but I’m intellectually honest enough to check it out.”

This is false. The Bible says none seek God. We have all turned aside and become useless. He promotes us to "check out Jesus and see if it works".

Congratulations, great – we’re glad to have you on the journey. Some of you are brand new believers and for you I’m very excited because you’re going to get to start off right, like many of us did not. Some of you are what I call “stumblers.” You say, “I call myself a Christian, but I’m not really very close to God. And I’ve been really, honestly, living for my plans and not God’s.” Well this 40 days is the time to come home. Some of you are strong believers, and you’re going to go deeper with God than you’ve ever gone before and you’re going to bring others long, too. Regardless of where you are in your spiritual journey, look at this last verse. “It makes no difference who you are or where you’re from – if you want God and are ready to as He says, the door is open.” (Acts 10:35)

I have no idea what version he is using for Acts 10:35 (oh wait, I found it, its the Message), but the KJV reads, "But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him." I have no idea where he gets the idea of it saying God is waiting around for us to be ready for Him. Warren also falsely prophesies and tells us that someone can be a Christian yet continuously not close to God. Instead of labeling them in need of salvation and their mind at enmity with God, he proclaims them as "stumblers". The Bible says, "If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.", and "Whoever says "I know him" but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him"

"The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

I also find it typical that he quotes Proverbs 16:4a, instead of the whole thing...and I can see why. Anything that offends people, he takes out. He is pure and simple, a false prophet, saying 'Peace', when there is no peace.

 

[bwsmith]

What I mean is that his mind needs to be sanctified in the truth of what the role of the Church is in society. I wasn't implying that he was not a Christian. Obviously his ecclesiology is off base, therefore his mind needs to be renewed in what the role of the church is.

Thanks for your rely -- but I still am not sure what you mean -- what has he said about the role of the church in society that is opposed to what Christ said?
And why is it obvious that his "ecclesiology" is off base?

 

[bwsmith]

About Ric Warren –
What I want to know, please, is what is evidence of wrong, unChristian, anti-biblical teaching.

I ask this because at both the PCA churches we attend (because of travel) they have a Celebrate Recovery program – and that is an outgrowth, I think, of Saddleback church.