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Brothers, what do you expect? The World, the Flesh, and the Devil to play nice and above board when their tare planting, Synagogue of Satan creating operations are under attack? Or the proponents of the truth to be entirely perfect this side of glory? When has that EVER been the case? We should expect the process of responding to any serious error or heresy to be almost as awful in this fallen world of ours, our three great enemies will ensure it will be such, but that doesn't mean for a moment we should stop doing the right thing! Act with integrity, be gentle and winsome whenever you can, but for heaven's sake, "Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like MEN, be strong."
To be fair, I think there's been quiet a bit of good-humoured comparison's of Wilson to Voldemort, including on this board. So I don't think "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" or "Dark Lord" are necessarily malicious titles for him. Certainly I meant nothing malicious when I used them on his blog, here and on my blog.
Quite right; I think it is reading too much motive to say Bob is being contemptuous of Wilson; but maybe Bob would like to address this since he's a PB member (in good standing ).
To be fair, I think there's been quiet a bit of good-humoured comparison's of Wilson to Voldemort, including on this board. So I don't think "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" or "Dark Lord" are necessarily malicious titles for him. Certainly I meant nothing malicious when I used them on his blog, here and on my blog.
How ironic that in a blog post chastising the Baylys from their one-sidedness, we get true gauge of the author's contempt for his opponent with phrases such as "He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN)".
Well, I hear what y'all are saying, but somehow I fail to get the "humor" in the midst of the terrible accusations that are flying back and forth. I think such attempts at "humor" in this context are, at best, ill advised.
In the meantime I'll stand by the substance of my comment.
How ironic that in a blog post chastising the Baylys from their one-sidedness, we get true gauge of the author's contempt for his opponent with phrases such as "He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN)".
I confess that py3ak's idea of relating HWMNBN to the (I think, according to Google) Harry Potter antagonist is quite clever, far more clever than the actual reason. I used the initials to prevent my blog from showing up when folks do Internet searches for "Doug Wilson". When I used his name a lot in a blog post back in June, I received a large number of page hits looking up the slavery thing and other unsavory issues, with which I do not wish my blog to be associated. Unless I've missed a reference, you'll find that his name almost never appears more than once (on rare occasions twice) in any single post, and doesn't even appear in many posts. With such a low occurrence, my blog isn't likely to come up in a search on these other subjects. I actually mentioned this technique in a post I did way back in the summer. With the same reasoning, I try NOT to abbreviate "Federal Vision" too often because I DO want my blog to come up in searches for that topic.
So, sorry, not much humor there--just keeping under the search-engine radars for unsavory topics. I think that I may have used the initials once recently on GreenBagginses, but later realized that was silly because Wilson's name is all over Lane's blog. I will admit, though, that I did start finding it a bit humorous after typing it for a while. I'll post a link to this comment on my blog so others may benefit from your question.
True enough but let's remember that the issue is a both-and and not an either-or. I agree with many who are criticizing the tone and one-sidedness of some FV critics but all sin has to be exposed. Wilson's arrogance has long preceded this and can even be found in his books before he became persona not gratia. Even when I was still a fan of his writings and would recommend him to others I always warned others about his attitude toward people. This is par for the course for him for at least a decade now. I used to find in it something witty and insightful and now I just see in it a "mean-spirited Will Rogersesque" smartest person in the room attitude. The man simply can't write something without spinning some harsh analogy that he thinks captures the essence of things. All his devotees fawn: "Oh, he's so folksy...." I've gotten to the point where I can't stand the poison of asps that drips from his tongue.py3ak said:1. Even in opposing them we run the risk of collapsing into heterodoxy ourselves.
2. And we also run the risk of malice, where any stick is good enough to beat them with.
3. And in addition, we run the risk of falling into hypocrisy: where people who ought to be opposed or rebuked or whatever get a free pass simply because they oppose the FV. Thus we can squeal if the FV tries something, and remain silent if the TRs try the same thing: that is not justice, and that is not Christian.
I confess that py3ak's idea of relating HWMNBN to the (I think, according to Google) Harry Potter antagonist is quite clever, far more clever than the actual reason. I used the initials to prevent my blog from showing up when folks do Internet searches for "Doug Wilson". When I used his name a lot in a blog post back in June, I received a large number of page hits looking up the slavery thing and other unsavory issues, with which I do not wish my blog to be associated. Unless I've missed a reference, you'll find that his name almost never appears more than once (on rare occasions twice) in any single post, and doesn't even appear in many posts. With such a low occurrence, my blog isn't likely to come up in a search on these other subjects. I actually mentioned this technique in a post I did way back in the summer. With the same reasoning, I try NOT to abbreviate "Federal Vision" too often because I DO want my blog to come up in searches for that topic.
So, sorry, not much humor there--just keeping under the search-engine radars for unsavory topics. I think that I may have used the initials once recently on GreenBagginses, but later realized that was silly because Wilson's name is all over Lane's blog. I will admit, though, that I did start finding it a bit humorous after typing it for a while. I'll post a link to this comment on my blog so others may benefit from your question.
Rich, are you saying that what Wilson would call the "serrated edge" you consider to be "the poison of asps"?
or thisRomans 12
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.
Romans 13
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another; 11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord;
Well, I understand it a bit better now. The only problem is the "intelligence" in the alogorithms of Google. There's a number of them including Latent Semantic Indexing that will eventually associate HWMNBN with Doug Wilson so that if someone searches for Doug Wilson then your posts might still come up depending on how referenced they are.
This is an example of serendipity. Some time ago several of us on here (in good humour) started calling Wilson He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, and almost simultaneously (but, I think unrelatedly) someone else started to do it.
Well, I understand it a bit better now. The only problem is the "intelligence" in the alogorithms of Google. There's a number of them including Latent Semantic Indexing that will eventually associate HWMNBN with Doug Wilson so that if someone searches for Doug Wilson then your posts might still come up depending on how referenced they are.
Ouch, I hadn't heard that. I have more research to do. On the one hand, it makes fuzzy searching closer to possible, but I like being able to at least get some tailoring in attracting the right kind of hits while avoiding ones that I don't want. Thanks for letting me know.
If y'all will recall, I mentioned in another thread how I'd finally given up trying to come up with a unique thought.
Ecclesiastes was dead-on, and there truly is nothing new under the sun, up to and including "HWMNBN".
Frustrating, that's what it is. Frustrating.