If you could start your own town...

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If you could start your own town what would it look and be like? Or if you were not starting a town but say a very large neighborhood? I have been thinking about this for the last few years and it brings up some interesting points. How would your beliefs and presuppositions effect things from laws/regulations to architecture/land use? Would it even be possible to try such a thing? Feel free to add in anything I have not listed. I will add my ideas later tomorrow, for now I must sleep... :p
 
The main problem with Sim City is that the citizens are socialistic, at least in my experience. You can't really build a libertarian paradise and expect it to thrive in that game.
 
I’m happy to know that I’m not the only one who thinks this way! I’d definitely go for a Geneva esk theocracy. It would be very easy create if one of those sovereign Native American nations converted to Reformed Christianity. After that all you’d have to is raise an army and… er… start proselytizing the surrounding area. :D
 
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I worked in the area of The Woodlands TX for quite a while before moving here and am amazed at the great organization and planning that took place that continues to be developed even now. The 2000 census was more than 55,000 and there are wonderful neighborhoods around that are mostly hidden from view from the thoroughfares by trees. Its in the midst of a wonderful forrest, having first belonged to a lumber mill. A variety of churches, schools, and shopping areas provide for needs at close range. To me it is an ideal community. Doctors, the mall, many shopping areas and churches, libraries,and pharmacies are all within 3 miles of my residence. I'm a native Houstonian and this is 30 miles north of Houston off IH-45. It is to me a great place to live!
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Ron Paul would be president to start. Or someone like him.

Anyone could run for president. If you don't want an 18 year old president, don't vote for him. I would probably keep the four year term limit but allow more than two terms, though there'd have to be a break between two and three. I don't want some smarmy kim jong il brainwashing us.

The gov't would exist to protect life and property.
The gov't would not have any major part in our day-to-day life.

Church would take care of the sick, the widows and orphans.

There would be no income tax.
No property tax.
If you earn money, it becomes yours to do with as you please. If you buy a house, you don't have to pay rent for it (taxes).

If you don't work, let your church feed you. There you will be accountable to someone.
If you don't have a church, find one or find someone who will help you.

I would want to recruit one income families for the start up of the town, but obviously women would be allowed to work. I just hope they would choose not to. I would like to live in a town where 40+K a year is enough to own a house.
Doctors would not accept health insurance, though there'd be no law to prevent them from doing so. However, with no laws forcing business to offer this, perhaps most wouldn't. We'd pay, barter, etc. for medicine, and we'd let the doctors compete for our money!
School will be the responsibility of parents. If they want to form together and create a school where THEY pay professionals to teach, they can do so. Or they can simply teach their kids at home, or at church, etc. The gov't would make no laws about schooling. If you don't teach your children at all, shame on you, but that is your prerogative as a parent. Just hope that your next door neighbor happens to be a kindhearted homeschooler.
 
Something like the original New England model with a long, rectangular common area that the houses front onto so the kids would have a big place to play. I'd put the church building on one end. I'd have fields radiating off from the central housing area so we'd be a fairly self-sustaining community.
 
This is too much a temptation for me! I would definitely have only reformed people in my city...see, not good! Then who would we evangelize? What me wants isn't always what me should get.
 
In my town there'd be a town square with whippin's and hangin's and lots of psalm singing. :flamingscot:

Oh, and lots of dog parks, cafes, bookstores and sushi bars. :book2::cheers2::cheers::coffee:
 
Knoxienne said:
In my town there'd be a town square with whippin's and hangin's and lots of psalm singing. :flamingscot:

Oh, and lots of dog parks, cafes, bookstores and sushi bars. :book2::cheers2::cheers::coffee:
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Hey! Never thought of that! Can I come live with you? Can we have beer, wine, and brandy too? Maybe roast marshmallows? :)
 
he beholds said:
The gov't would exist to protect life and property.

There would be no income tax.
No property tax.
If you earn money, it becomes yours to do with as you please. If you buy a house, you don't have to pay rent for it (taxes).
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How will the government go about protecting life and property, without the support of taxes?

On another note, there are a bunch of WN's who talk about doing this (setting up their own little neighborhood/town/city... http://**www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=397069 --remove the asterick if you want to read it
 
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I would definately create a giant domed city, allowing no view of the outside. It would contain bunches of levels, so the buildings would not have to get too high, each level being perhaps 200-300 metres. It would be designed in such a way that clusters of resedential buildings would surround commercial/business districts, so that one could easily walk to and from all the necessities. When farther distances are required, an extensive, automated train system would be freely available.
It would be a technologically-centered civilization, and would have a strong social class system. Citizens would have 'ranks', which they would by no means be stuck in, but could move up or down through via education and profession.
Food and housing would be supplied by the government. Food would be distributed in 'mess halls', as it were, and housing would consist entirely of flats (quality of food and housing would vary by class). Also: communal washrooms.
Jobs would still pay, and all other aspects of one's life must be provided for by the individual (or family, or whatever).
 
Scynne said:
I would definately create a giant domed city, allowing no view of the outside. It would contain bunches of levels, so the buildings would not have to get too high, each level being perhaps 200-300 metres. It would be designed in such a way that clusters of resedential buildings would surround commercial/business districts, so that one could easily walk to and from all the necessities. When farther distances are required, an extensive, automated train system would be freely available.
It would be a technologically-centered civilization, and would have a strong social class system. Citizens would have 'ranks', which they would by no means be stuck in, but could move up or down through via education and profession.
Food and housing would be supplied by the government. Food would be distributed in 'mess halls', as it were, and housing would consist entirely of flats (quality of food and housing would vary by class). Also: communal washrooms.
Jobs would still pay, and all other aspects of one's life must be provided for by the individual (or family, or whatever).
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We have those here in Canada. We call them maximum Security Penitentiaries!
 
sans nom said:
he beholds said:
The gov't would exist to protect life and property.

There would be no income tax.
No property tax.
If you earn money, it becomes yours to do with as you please. If you buy a house, you don't have to pay rent for it (taxes).
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How will the government go about protecting life and property, without the support of taxes?

On another note, there are a bunch of WN's who talk about doing this (setting up their own little neighborhood/town/city... http://**www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=397069 --remove the asterick if you want to read it
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Sales tax or tarrifs, etc. I don't want the gov't doing very much, so it won't need very much money.

Scynne said:
I would definately create a giant domed city, allowing no view of the outside. It would contain bunches of levels, so the buildings would not have to get too high, each level being perhaps 200-300 metres. It would be designed in such a way that clusters of resedential buildings would surround commercial/business districts, so that one could easily walk to and from all the necessities. When farther distances are required, an extensive, automated train system would be freely available.
It would be a technologically-centered civilization, and would have a strong social class system. Citizens would have 'ranks', which they would by no means be stuck in, but could move up or down through via education and profession.
Food and housing would be supplied by the government. Food would be distributed in 'mess halls', as it were, and housing would consist entirely of flats (quality of food and housing would vary by class). Also: communal washrooms.
Jobs would still pay, and all other aspects of one's life must be provided for by the individual (or family, or whatever).
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Your answer sounds so very German.
 
Start a town? It might be better to go the other way with it. Cain did the whole start a town thing, and it hasn't gone so well ever since.

Theognome
 
There is no "if" here, there is only "when"...

When I become super rich I will buy an island and name it New Geneva. New Geneva will have rules similar to the PB, where one must adhere to a confession in order to be a resident and citizen of New Geneva.

New Geneva will be governed by a civil magistrate who actually does actively restrain evil. Things like blasphemy, adultery, and doing work on Sunday will be punishable by fine or imprisonment (in some cases).

New Geneva will be split into two sides: Presbyterians and hereti...Baptists, with each side having its own inhabitants and churches. :p

Everyone will be required to work and perform some sort of trade or they will starve. All children will attend public school taught from a Christian worldview.

Feel free to add to my ideas regarding New Geneva.

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Oh yeah, we will have one, giant pub in the middle of the island. Budweiser, Miller, and Coors will not be served and possession of said products will be a misdemeanor.
 
Theognome said:
Start a town? It might be better to go the other way with it. Cain did the whole start a town thing, and it hasn't gone so well ever since.

Theognome
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kinda didgy logic here surely?

1)A bad person once started a town
2)Starting a town is bad

reads a bit like

1 A man was walking his dog and his dog bit a passer by.
2 Walking dogs is not good because they bite passers by
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When I become super rich I will buy an island and name it New Geneva. New Geneva will have rules similar to the PB, where one must adhere to a confession in order to be a resident and citizen of New Geneva.

New Geneva will be governed by a civil magistrate who actually does actively restrain evil. Things like blasphemy, adultery, and doing work on Sunday will be punishable by fine or imprisonment (in some cases).
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sounds a bit like some Islamic nations...

I think I'd go for free church/free state.

Trying to build the kingdom through political force only hinders rather than furthers the kingdom of God.
 
Zenas said:
There is no "if" here, there is only "when"...

When I become super rich I will buy an island and name it New Geneva. New Geneva will have rules similar to the PB, where one must adhere to a confession in order to be a resident and citizen of New Geneva.

New Geneva will be governed by a civil magistrate who actually does actively restrain evil. Things like blasphemy, adultery, and doing work on Sunday will be punishable by fine or imprisonment (in some cases).

New Geneva will be split into two sides: Presbyterians and hereti...Baptists, with each side having its own inhabitants and churches. :p

Everyone will be required to work and perform some sort of trade or they will starve. All children will attend public school taught from a Christian worldview.

Feel free to add to my ideas regarding New Geneva.

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Oh yeah, we will have one, giant pub in the middle of the island. Budweiser, Miller, and Coors will not be served and possession of said products will be a misdemeanor.
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I can't tell if some of these are jokes.

Gov't feeding troughs, Gov't being way too much in my business...
Are you being serious, Andrew? (Not a rhetorical question!)
How will adultery be fined? I mean, how is the magistrate going to see into my heart to know when I'm committing adultery?

I guess if you buy the island and own it, you'll be free to live as you please on that island--if you make sure it's in my country. And if it is like the PB, and people agree to adhere to the confessions, then they knew what was coming and didn't have to choose to live there.

Forcing mothers to work...that one sounds Russian to me.
 
Zenas said:
New Geneva will be split into two sides: Presbyterians and hereti...Baptists, with each side having its own inhabitants and churches. :p
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What if my theology changes? Would I be allowed to visit your side? Would I be forced to relocate... abandoning my Babdist friends?:D

I do like the pub idea where only quality beer is served. A "fizzywater-free"
zone, so to speak. Bawb could be the purchasing agent/quality control guy!
:lol:(Sorry, every time I think of Bawb I picture Homer Simpson with a full head of hair going "Mmmmmmmmm, beeeeeeeeeer!):wwbd:
 
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