Bonds in heaven?

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earl40

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I understand that in heaven we will no longer be married to our spouse. I also understand we will see our spouse though we will not be married. I also understand that we will see our children. My question is does the relationship of father to son still exist in heaven?
 
I understand that in heaven we will no longer be married to our spouse. I also understand we will see our spouse though we will not be married. I also understand that we will see our children. My question is does the relationship of father to son still exist in heaven?
Matt. 23:8-12

I dont think so. Because the Bible says that "we were purchased with a price." That is the cost of our adoption, from being illegitimate children, was the precious blood of the Lamb. Also, the marriage bond is equal if not greater than familial bonds; but we see the bond of discipleship superseding both when Jesus contrasts the love we must have for him with the hate it may equate to the former. This is not to say we will not respect our parents (who make it into eternity) or our former spouse(s,) but we instead will view and love the entire divine family equally, and fully; having no tiers affection cept that we love God above all. I look at it this way; and I may be wrong; but the love a husband has for his wife, and a wife has for her husband, and parents have for their children, are the main present glimpses we have of how each Saint will love each other and God in eternity. An endless, boundless, sacrificial, undying, unselfish, unjealous, unbending, unyielding love. Every act we do will be for the love of God and neighbor.

We must keep in mind there is a reason God has chosen not to include marriage in eternity; because think of it; what better marriage could exist than two who cannot sin? There must be a reason he wants us single; without ties, all to himself. And since we know that Heaven is a place where God will shower his blessings upon us unhindered; whatever the reason it is, we should look forward to it.
 
Earl, I don't think we will lose a thing in regards to our relationships with our loved ones, but will gain heaven in them. All will be better and sweeter than heart can imagine.
 
I dont think so. Because the Bible says that "we were purchased with a price." That is the cost of our adoption, from being illegitimate children, was the precious blood of the Lamb. Also, the marriage bond is equal if not greater than familial bonds; but we see the bond of discipleship superseding both when Jesus contrasts the love we must have for him with the hate it may equate to the former. This is not to say we will not respect our parents (who make it into eternity) or our former spouse(s,) but we instead will view and love the entire divine family equally, and fully; having no tiers affection cept that we love God above all. I look at it this way; and I may be wrong; but the love a husband has for his wife, and a wife has for her husband, and parents have for their children, are the main present glimpses we have of how each Saint will love each other and God in eternity. An endless, boundless, sacrificial, undying, unselfish, unjealous, unbending, unyielding love. Every act we do will be for the love of God and neighbor.

We must keep in mind there is a reason God has chosen not to include marriage in eternity; because think of it; what better marriage could exist than two who cannot sin? There must be a reason he wants us single; without ties, all to himself. And since we know that Heaven is a place where God will shower his blessings upon us unhindered; whatever the reason it is, we should look forward to it.

I think that when we enter the Eternal State, it will be the surprise of a lifetime. Of a thousand lifetimes. And the Wonder all enjoy of it all will grow endlessly as we learn more and more about this infinite God who loves us. Although the relationship to all believers will be that of brother and sister, the love we will have for our former wives, family members, and all of the elect everywhere will be greater than the best marriage love in this present state.

I want to mention adoption. We know that there are many illustrations in scripture of the church's relationship to the Triune God. Adoption is one such illustration. And there are other, perhaps lesser and greater illustrations of our Eternal relationship to the Godhead.

But it's beautiful as adoption is when we consider Who it is that is adopting us; there is one illustration that describes our Eternal relationship more perfectly than any other. I'm talking about the marriage of the gorgeous Bride of the most Wonderful lover of a husband you could imagine. And, this is the bitter pill that once swallowed because the sweetest of fair imaginable. The pill is seeing that we, without him, can do nothing. It'll take many disillusionments along the way and much sorrow and despair of heart to reach this point, but in the end, we will all see that it has been Jesus all along who has done all things for us.

And the reason, the only reason that Jesus finds us beautiful, is now and forever will be, because of His seed (σπέρμα, Sperma; 1 John 3:9); as John calls it, we receive the very genes of God as the word in the Greek indicates. Oh no, not God but forever a creature, yet changed to a point where we will know even as we are known. (1 Corinthians 13:12) Put that in your pipe and smoke it for a few minutes.

The genetic word (γεννάω, gennaō) Eg., begat (49x), be born (39x), bear (2x), gender (2x), bring forth (1x), be delivered (1x), misc (3x), is used ten times in 1 John.

Think big.

Ed
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Ephesians 5:25‭-‬33 YLT98 (the Yoda translation )
The husbands! love your own wives, as also the Christ did love the assembly, and did give himself for it, that he might sanctify it, having cleansed [it] with the bathing of the water in the saying, that he might present it to himself the assembly in glory, not having spot or wrinkle, or any of such things, but that it may be holy and unblemished;

so ought the husbands to love their own wives as their own bodies: he who is loving his own wife — himself he doth love; for no one ever his own flesh did hate, but doth nourish and cherish it, as also the Lord — the assembly, because members we are of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones; ‘for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife, and they shall be — the two — for one flesh;’ this secret is great, and I speak in regard to Christ and to the assembly; but ye also, every one in particular — let each his own wife so love as himself, and the wife — that she may reverence the husband.
 
Earl, I don't think we will lose a thing in regards to our relationships with our loved ones, but will gain heaven in them. All will be better and sweeter than heart can imagine.

Of course the marriage bond or relationship is dissolved in heaven as Our Lord teaches. I agree our marriage relationships will be much more solid even though dissolved in glory. I guess I am asking will my son still be my son in heaven as I am his father? Oh how am I still grieving my loss.
 
Of course the marriage bond or relationship is dissolved in heaven as Our Lord teaches. I agree our marriage relationships will be much more solid even though dissolved in glory. I guess I am asking will my son still be my son in heaven as I am his father? Oh how am I still grieving my loss.
I dont think you will enter Heaven, and your son will be a child for you to raise; as if that aspect of familial life will be rekindled. Raising a child for us predicates a marriage; thus the reason sex is off-limits to the unmarried. Will there be a relationship there, yes. But we must understand that fathers and sons on earth are only capable of a limited amount of wisdom; are subject to futility, and are still plagued with sin. We should take comfort in the fact that our children, if passed, have found a better inheritance; and are now in the hands of a perfectly loving, omniscient, omnipotent, and endlessly wise Father. To be blunt, they are being raised by a better father than any of us could ever be. So this may beg the question, what do we miss of our children when they pass? Is it the opportunity to raise them? I can see that. But if it is the opportunity to impart wisdom and the knowledge of God, he is doing that himself as we speak. While there is a place for mourning, we must also caution ourselves not to mourn as those who have no hope. For it is good to look forward to the day we shall see our loved ones again; but it is better to be content that even if we did not, that they would get to see the Lord for eternity. And though I can never begin to attempt to tell a parent how they should feel and how they should mourn for a child; never having had one; I can say that even what feels like a curse for you, can in a way, have become a blessing for him. For you must still traverse this glass darkly. But for him; the colors are presently radiant in the reality of Gods true glory. Allow yourself to be righteously envious, and this may prove a balm to the soreness of your loss.
 
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The bond in heaven will be much stronger than that of earthly parent/child. It will not be based in biology, but in Christ.
We will all be sons and daughters and brothers and sisters.
All will be well. How glorious!
Praying for your comfort, Earl.
 
Of course the marriage bond or relationship is dissolved in heaven as Our Lord teaches. I agree our marriage relationships will be much more solid even though dissolved in glory. I guess I am asking will my son still be my son in heaven as I am his father? Oh how am I still grieving my loss.
I don't see in Scripture that the parent-child relationship must be dissolved through death and the resurrection. We're raised in these self-same bodies. "I shall go to him..." You are still your son's father right now- is he still your son since you're still his father? Will Mary always be the mother of our Lord in his humanity, and He her son? Interesting things to ponder, and I think there's warrant to lean toward those bonds continuing in a fully sanctified and glorified state.
 
I don't see in Scripture that the parent-child relationship must be dissolved through death and the resurrection. We're raised in these self-same bodies. "I shall go to him..." You are still your son's father right now- is he still your son since you're still his father? Will Mary always be the mother of our Lord in his humanity, and He her son? Interesting things to ponder, and I think there's warrant to lean toward those bonds continuing in a fully sanctified and glorified state.

I thank you, thank you, thank you!
 
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