Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
Define \'Disciple\'
Baptism of disciples alone is just safer also.:bigsmile:
Baptism of disciples alone is just safer also.:bigsmile:
Define 'Disciple'
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Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Joseph,
Please define 'disciple'?
Please define 'disciple'?
Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
I was wondering what happened to my post.
Scott, I had no intentions to start yet another baptism thread. If you noticed the smilies that I inserted they were ment to show I was just joking around.
To tell you the truth Scott I've read some from both sides of the debate. From men like Fred Malone, R.C. Sproul, John Murray,and Sam Waldron just to name a few. I've also read through some of the five billion threads on the subject here on the PB. I have yet to be convinced of the paedo view of baptism but still see my paedo brethren as just that; brethren. I have no desire whatsoever to get into a debate about baptism with you nor anyone else on the PB. Over the past year and a half I've quietly read, studied, and learned much about the Reformed faith from men with convictions on both sides of the issue. To me at this point, baptism is not high on my priority list. That may sould like a copout, take it for what you will but I'm quite content that the credo-view is correct and the Lord has not seen fit for whatever reason to press upon my heart and conscious the desire to study the issue much further at this time. If He does, I'll know where to come to discuss it.
[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Joseph Ringling]
Scott, I had no intentions to start yet another baptism thread. If you noticed the smilies that I inserted they were ment to show I was just joking around.
To tell you the truth Scott I've read some from both sides of the debate. From men like Fred Malone, R.C. Sproul, John Murray,and Sam Waldron just to name a few. I've also read through some of the five billion threads on the subject here on the PB. I have yet to be convinced of the paedo view of baptism but still see my paedo brethren as just that; brethren. I have no desire whatsoever to get into a debate about baptism with you nor anyone else on the PB. Over the past year and a half I've quietly read, studied, and learned much about the Reformed faith from men with convictions on both sides of the issue. To me at this point, baptism is not high on my priority list. That may sould like a copout, take it for what you will but I'm quite content that the credo-view is correct and the Lord has not seen fit for whatever reason to press upon my heart and conscious the desire to study the issue much further at this time. If He does, I'll know where to come to discuss it.
[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Joseph Ringling]
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Joseph,
We are not discussing baptism; I have asked you to define the term disciple as it is used in scripture.
We are not discussing baptism; I have asked you to define the term disciple as it is used in scripture.
Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
I believe the term disciple as used in scripture can be defined as someone that follows Christ and His commandments.
John 8:31 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Did all of the disciples described in scripture, whom 'followed Jesus', all continue to follow Him?
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Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
Of course not.
C. Matthew McMahon
Christian Preacher
Was Judas a disciple?
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Ok. Then having said that, is discipleship a indicator of regeneration?
[Edited on 1-3-2006 by Scott Bushey]
Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
He was an apostle, but he obviously proved by his actions that he was no disciple.
Hey this eerily similar of the conversation between professor Jacobs and Thomas. Am I in the twilight zone?
ReformedWretch
Puritan Board Doctor
While I know you fella's are trying to convey or teach something, on ocasion I wish you would get straight to the point.
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
He was an apostle, but he obviously proved by his actions that he was no disciple.
Hey this eerily similar of the conversation between professor Jacobs and Thomas. Am I in the twilight zone?
Joseph,
I suggest doing a word study on the word disciple as you are redefining it. You will find that the term is used generically in regards to people whom followed Christ. It is not germane to regeneration.
Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
He was an apostle, but he obviously proved by his actions that he was no disciple.
Hey this eerily similar of the conversation between professor Jacobs and Thomas. Am I in the twilight zone?
Joseph,
I suggest doing a word study on the word disciple as you are redefining it. You will find that the term is used generically in regards to people whom followed Christ. It is not germane to regeneration.
Let me rephrase that: I think I spoke to quickly. Yes Judas was a disciple of Jesus. He proved himself unregenerate by his actions.
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
He was an apostle, but he obviously proved by his actions that he was no disciple.
Hey this eerily similar of the conversation between professor Jacobs and Thomas. Am I in the twilight zone?
Joseph,
I suggest doing a word study on the word disciple as you are redefining it. You will find that the term is used generically in regards to people whom followed Christ. It is not germane to regeneration.
Let me rephrase that: I think I spoke to quickly. Yes Judas was a disciple of Jesus. He proved himself unregenerate by his actions.
Was Ananias and Saphira disciples? Demas?
You earlier wrote:
How is the above safer and in what way?
Joseph Ringling
Puritan Board Freshman
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Originally posted by Joseph Ringling
He was an apostle, but he obviously proved by his actions that he was no disciple.
Hey this eerily similar of the conversation between professor Jacobs and Thomas. Am I in the twilight zone?
Joseph,
I suggest doing a word study on the word disciple as you are redefining it. You will find that the term is used generically in regards to people whom followed Christ. It is not germane to regeneration.
Let me rephrase that: I think I spoke to quickly. Yes Judas was a disciple of Jesus. He proved himself unregenerate by his actions.
Was Ananias and Saphira disciples? Demas?
You earlier wrote:
How is the above safer and in what way?
I said I was just joking about that. Hence the smilies.
Scott Bushey
Puritanboard Commissioner
Ok............
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