Eastern Views of the Godhead & Trinity

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From time to time, one runs into issues where the East seems to disagree with the West, and consequently with Calvinism, on the doctrine of God. Recently, a video titled "monarchical trinitarianism is the only trinitarianism" jumped up on my feed (I did not watch it), which I know refers to an Eastern Heterodox view of the matter. I have also heard some talk on the issue of "uncreated energies" in God and a visible "uncreated light".

My questions would be:
- Where do these diffrences come from, and how old are they?
- How does the argument typically go, especially from the Western side?
- What saith the scripture?
- Did anyone on the Calvinist side write against their views?
 
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There is no easy answer, but I'll try:
*Monarchical Trinitarianism, excluding some of the earliest apologists, is a later development even on Eastern terms. Basil starts to expound it but it is muted compared to later.
*Essence and energies can be found in Basil's Letter 234, but scholars don't think he is saying the same thing Gregory Palamas is. "Energies" doesn't have to be a mystical term. In Aristotelian language, it just means operations.
*What saith the Scriptures? I think the Scriptures are fine with energies language in its pre-Palamite sense. Paul uses it in 2 Corinthians. To be sure, that is not what the East means.
*You won't find many Calvinists writing against them, largely because I doubt they were really aware of them. And even when Calvinists are aware of them, we still think they are just Roman Catholics with beards.
 
You won't find many Calvinists writing against them, largely because I doubt they were really aware of them. And even when Calvinists are aware of them, we still think they are just Roman Catholics with beards.
Any Protestants or pre-Reformation writers who'd take the same view where it matters can also be mentioned
 
Any Protestants or pre-Reformation writers who'd take the same view where it matters can also be mentioned
Robert Letham has probably done more interaction with the the Essence/energies distinction than anyone else recently. See his book on the Trinity. Michael Horton as well, though Horton thinks God's covenantal actions are equivalent to his energies, but I don't think that is correct.
 
How does the argument typically go, especially from the Western side?

The West denies that "cause" is a proper category for intra-Trinitarian relations. The aim is to avoid making the Father "more God" than the Son or Spirit. Eastern monarchy tends to make the Father the source of deity, which risks subordinating the Son. The Reformed insist that the Son is autotheos, and that anything pertaining to the communication of the Godhead is limited to Personhood.

On the essence- energies distinction, Scripture teaches one simple God, not a composite of essence and energies. God’s attributes and operations are identical with His essence. The so-called "uncreated light" is nothing but a created manifestation of divine glory, not a distinct uncreated "energy." Palamism introduces real distinctions in God, which undermine divine simplicity.
 
The Reformed insist that the Son is autotheos
Is the Holy Spirit also autotheos? EO would argue that if we apply the same logic, we would conclude that in the western view, the Holy Spirit is subordinated.
 
Is the Holy Spirit also autotheos? EO would argue that if we apply the same logic, we would conclude that in the western view, the Holy Spirit is subordinated.

Yes, the same applies to the Spirit as to the Son. The Spirit is God because He possesses the one, simple, indivisible divine essence. His procession is the personal property that distinguishes Him as Spirit, but His divinity is not derived. Therefore, He too is autotheos. And the same qualification applies to the Spirit as to the Son -- the communication of the Godhead refers to the Person, not the essence.

The EO charge comes about because of the belief in the monarchy of the Father. From this POV, if the Son is autotheos and the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, then the Son becomes a second source or co-principle of divinity. Likewise, it is argued, that if the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, the Spirit's divinity appears to be "doubly derived."

But Western theologians deny this leads to subordinationism. First, because there is no claim that the Father "causes" the Son; therefore there is no claim that the Son "causes" the Spirit. Secondly, the Father and Son are a single principle in breathing forth the Spirit. The Son's role in spiration is not independent but is one with the Father's. This safeguards the Spirit's equality.

Moreover, the Spirit is the third Person; He is not another second Person. If both the Son and the Spirit proceeded from the Father they would both be Sons. There would be no real differentiation between the Son and the Spirit.
 
Thank you for the prompt reply.

Moreover, the Spirit is the third Person; He is not another second Person. If both the Son and the Spirit proceeded from the Father they would both be Sons. There would be no real differentiation between the Son and the Spirit.
In my limited knowledge, I have come to the conclusion that many of the accusations by both sides create a straw man.

From the EO POV (assuming that only the Father possesses the property of autotheos), the Western position can be seen as believing in two Fathers, since the property of originating is shared mutually by both the Father and the Son, which ultimately leads to the subordination of the Spirit, as He is absent from this shared property. This is the kind of straw man I'm talking about.

Moreover, you used the term "proceed" to both the Son and the Spirit. I think it is better to use the traditional terminology of generation and procession, for the distinct Hypostases, because that is crucial. It may not satisfy the words of St. Basil, but as you probably know, we do not truly know what the difference is, but we do know that there is a difference.
 
Yes, the same applies to the Spirit as to the Son. The Spirit is God because He possesses the one, simple, indivisible divine essence. His procession is the personal property that distinguishes Him as Spirit, but His divinity is not derived. Therefore, He too is autotheos. And the same qualification applies to the Spirit as to the Son -- the communication of the Godhead refers to the Person, not the essence.

The EO charge comes about because of the belief in the monarchy of the Father. From this POV, if the Son is autotheos and the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, then the Son becomes a second source or co-principle of divinity. Likewise, it is argued, that if the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, the Spirit's divinity appears to be "doubly derived."

But Western theologians deny this leads to subordinationism. First, because there is no claim that the Father "causes" the Son; therefore there is no claim that the Son "causes" the Spirit. Secondly, the Father and Son are a single principle in breathing forth the Spirit. The Son's role in spiration is not independent but is one with the Father's. This safeguards the Spirit's equality.

Moreover, the Spirit is the third Person; He is not another second Person. If both the Son and the Spirit proceeded from the Father they would both be Sons. There would be no real differentiation between the Son and the Spirit.

Are you aware of any books on the trinity and doctrine of God that extensively deal with the East (without strawmen), other than Letham and Horton (as suggested by @RamistThomist)? Did you learn any of this from work by others or did you have to do the comparison of the Eastern views with the West yourself?
 
In my limited knowledge, I have come to the conclusion that many of the accusations by both sides create a straw man.

You are entitled to your POV, but there is a reality in the differences. If one begins with the monarchy of the Father it leads down a different path.

From the EO POV (assuming that only the Father possesses the property of autotheos), the Western position can be seen as believing in two Fathers, since the property of originating is shared mutually by both the Father and the Son, which ultimately leads to the subordination of the Spirit, as He is absent from this shared property. This is the kind of straw man I'm talking about.

It is not really a straw man. It is a genuine disagreement. If you hold to the language of "cause" then that would be an actual problem. But the West reject the language of "cause" so the consequence does not stick.

Moreover, you used the term "proceed" to both the Son and the Spirit. I think it is better to use the traditional terminology of generation and procession, for the distinct Hypostases, because that is crucial. It may not satisfy the words of St. Basil, but as you probably know, we do not truly know what the difference is, but we do know that there is a difference.

That was a hypothetical. I was showing the consequences of Father only procession. Of course, if the Spirit proceeds from the Father alone then neither actually "proceed" in a technical sense; they would both be begotten because the communication of the Godhead to another Person is by definition filiation.
 
Are you aware of any books on the trinity and doctrine of God that extensively deal with the East (without strawmen), other than Letham and Horton (as suggested by @RamistThomist)? Did you learn any of this from work by others or did you have to do the comparison of the Eastern views with the West yourself?

My historical research has come from all over the place. For things like the present discussion I would highly recommend Muller PRRD 4. That will give you the basic historical outlines needed for understanding what has gone on before the Reformed Scholastics, which shapes the contours of discussion and formulation.
 
These are some old notes I did on the energies.

Ten years ago, when I was debating online converts to Eastern Orthodoxy, I devoted some thought to the essence/energies distinction. Actually, it had been on my radar since 2009. While I no longer have any interest in such debates, I thought it might be helpful to put analyses into one place. For this piece, I am drawing heavily upon David Bradshaw's Aristotle East and West, Gregory Palamas's Triads, and Robert Jenson's Systematic Theology.

Exposition

Aristotle appears to be the first to use the word energia (or any of its semantic cognates). Aristotle’s use suggests something along the lines of actuality and activity. Other thinkers took the word and gave it different applications, but the term itself did not have much of a philosophical impact until Middle Platonism.

Whatever else we might think of the term "energies," and despite its Aristotelian provenance, it is certainly a biblical category. Paul uses the term in 1 Corinthians 12. καὶ διαιρέσεις ἐνεργημάτων εἰσίν, ὁ δὲ αὐτὸς θεός, ὁ ἐνεργῶν τὰ πάντα ἐν πᾶσιν. Moreover, energies can be participated in, something impossible if they are identical to the divine essence Of course, much of the debate hinges on whether Palamas and Paul are using the term in the same way. I do not think there are.

At its most basic, the essence/energies distinction addresses a tension in classical theism. If God is unknowable in his essence, then how can we know him? Eastern Christians said we know him by his "energies" or operations (see St Basil the Great, Letter 234). More importantly, they were keen to point out that the energies themselves were also fully God. This safeguarded another important value: God reveals God.

Palamas and the Triads

Palamas begins his work with a helpful survey of terminology. For one, the heart is the rational faculty (I.2.iii; p. 42). This is absolutely correct and quite close to a Hebraic anthropology. Further, I also agree that “the divine” (my words, not his) has penetrated all of created reality (1.ii.6; 45). Before we begin, we must note his use of the term hyperousia: The essence is beyond the Godhead (2.iii.8; p. 57). (The reader is also encouraged to consult Plato's Republic 549b for an earlier use of the term). This is key to his whole construction.

Palamas, as is the case with the West, asserts the divine essence to be completely simple and there is no way we can participate in it. If we did, either a) we would be part of God or b) the essence isn't really simple. Palamas solves this problem by adding a third category: energies or activity. It is close to the term power. Power, understood in the ancient world, was something close to a substance (Barnes 36). It was similar to a “fluid” or “electricity,” to use an anachronism. More formally, it was the capacity to effect change. Such a view was still operative in the writings of Gregory of Nyssa.

Palamas says the energies are en-hypostatic (3.i.9, p. 71). This saves him from the immediate charge of Neo-Platonism. It raises the question: which hypostasis(es)? He answers: The Spirit sends it out in the hypostasis of another (ibid).

This might seem abstract, and it certainly is, but it makes sense of some of the biblical narrative. For one we physically see the God's glory. Moses saw God's glory with his eyes. Western writers, or so it seems with Augustine (see On the Trinity III.2.24), would say that Moses only saw a mystical replica of God's glory. Eastern writers say it was a bodily vision. For example, on the Mt of Transfiguration, did the disciples see the glory around Jesus or did they see a spiritual replica of the glory? I actually think the East is closer to the point on this one.

Evaluation

Before we criticize Palamas, it is important to recognize that he agrees with Western Christendom on key points: God is utterly simple and we cannot know the divine essence. Palamas, despite his other moves, is not as radical as he might appear to be.

I do not know how seriously I can take Palamas’s claim that he is not dependent on philosophy like the West is. His doctrine of essence, energies, motion, salvation as transformation are all highly technical philosophical concepts. Even if “hyper-ousia” is a valid theological concept, it is taken from Plato’s Republic (Plato 549b). Further, on p. 105 Palamas refers to God as “Prime Mover.” How is this not using Aristotle? I am not saying he is an Aristotelian--I do not think he is--but his project could not have gotten off of the ground were it not for Aristotle.

How coherent is it to call the energies “hypostatic” (p. 57, II.iii.8) while insisting that hypostasis does not mean what hypostasis means when it refers to the Trinity? I realize that Meyendorff glosses “hypostatic” to mean “real existence” (p. 131 n .2), but in the context of the Trinity we now have nature, hypostases, and hypostatic energies (which are not the same as hypostases). Is it any wonder that Latin critics drew the inference of a “fourth hypostasis?”

True, Palamas explains this by saying the light is “enhypostatic” . Robert Jenson has suggested that Palamas places the divine energies outside the gospel narrative (Jenson 157). I do not think Palamas’s move is as crass as Jenson suggests, but the problems are there. Following Maximus, it appears that Palamas sees the events in the gospel narratives as symbols of higher reality (3.i.13, p. 74).

Does it really make sense to say that God is both beyond knowledge and beyond unknowing (p. 32; 1.iii.4)? I realize Meyendorff glosses this as a Ps. Dionysian move, which it is, but that only raises further problems. If God is ineffable (Meyendorff, 121 n.9), then what’s the point of even speaking of God? I simply do not accept that the “knowledge-which-transcends” apophatic and cataphatic knowledge is not merely another form of cataphatic knowledge, for it ends with positive descriptions of God. That is not an insurmountble problem, but we need to call it what it is.

And a common criticism of Palamas: If God’s essence is unknowable, how does Palamas know that it is unknowable (Lacugna)? To be fair, Palamas does anticipate this criticism. Palamas notes that any answer he gives must be “tentative.” He then gives a very important answer--we know God “by the disposition of created things” (2.iii.68, p. 68). In other words, we know God by his works, not by peering into his nature. There is an important truth to this, and Palamas would have done well to finish the thought: if we are truly to know God by his works then we must look to his covenant and to the finished work of Christ. Of course, such a move is counter to any talk of apophaticism and essence-beyond-essence. Palamas does not continue the thought.

Now to the heart of the criticism: ousias do not have “interiorities.” In other words, there is not a subsection of ousia apart from the life of that ousia. If Palamas wants to say that the energies make the ousia present, fine. But if he says that, then one really does not have warrant to speak of a superessential, ineffable ousia by itself, for the very point of the energies and of ousia in general is that it is not by itself.

Perhaps the most damaging criticism of Palamas is the divorcing of economy and ontology. Related to this is that the energies seem to replace the role of the Persons in the divine economy. For example, the energies are not unique to a single person but common to all three who act together. This is not so different from the standard Western opera ad intra indivisible sunt. Catherine Lacugna notes, “the proprium of each person...fades into the background” (Lacugna, 195). By contrast, the Cappadocians would say we distinguish the Persons by their propria--by their hypostatic idiomata. For example, the Son's personal property is in being begotten, and so on. In Palamas, though, this role has been moved to the energies.

Apropos above, and echoing Robert Jenson, if the Persons are eclipsed by the energies and remain “above” the biblical narrative, in such case that we can no longer identity the persons by their hypostatic propria, we can only conclude that Palamism, despite its best intentions, is a more frozen form of modalism than anything Augustine or Aquinas ever dreamed of.

Conclusion

I do think we can still speak of "energies." For one, it is a biblical term. Moreover, it points to (and remains a pointer) that the world we live in is "open" to the divine. Maintaining this, however, does not require a commitment to a particular view of the essence and energies.

Bibliography


Augustine, On the Trinity. Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers.

Barnes, Michel. Dunamis. Catholic University of America.

Bradshaw, David. Aristotle East and West. Cambridge University Press.

Basil of Caesarea. Select Works and Letters. Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers.

Jenson, Robert W. Systematic Theology vol 1. Oxford University Press.

LaCaguna, Catherine. God for Us. Harper San Francisco.

Palamas, Gregory. Triads. trans. John Meyendorff. St Vladimir's Seminary Press.

Plato. The Republic.

Williams, Rowan. “The Philosophical Structures of Palamism,” Eastern Churches Review 9 (1977): 27-44D
 
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