How to respond to this view of the law and the Christian (New Covenant Theology)

[Pergamum]

The Law and the Christian « SGF Canada


If you had friends who believed this, how would you respond?

 

[Christusregnat]

In such a way as to get your thread pushed into the theonomy sub-forum

 

[T.A.G.]

Christonomy

New Covenant Theonomy

 

[Christusregnat]

The Moral Law, as summarily comprehended in the Ten Commandments, is written on the hearts of men from Creation, and while it was codified at Sinai, it has always been around. Before Moses came along it was obviously wrong to murder, steal, commit adultery, etc.

Here's a good summary from a very influential Reformed theologian on the three-fold vision of the Law of God:

Seeing by the Law Sin is, and the Law was not before Moses: (Rom 5.13.) it seemeth there is no Sin until Moses?
When it is said, the Law was not before Moses, it is to be understood of the Law written in the Tables of Stone by the Finger of God, and other Laws Ceremonial and Political written by Moses at the Commandment of God. For otherwise the Law (the Ceremonial excepted) was written in the Heart of Man; and for the Decay thereof through sin, taught by those to whom that belonged, from the Fall unto Moses.

Cheers,

 

[NaphtaliPress]

If you want to discuss this start a new thread so as not to sidetrack this one.

The Moral Law, as summarily comprehended in the Ten Commandments, is written on the hearts of men from Creation, and while it was codified at Sinai, it has always been around. Before Moses came along it was obviously wrong to murder, steal, commit adultery, etc.

Here's a good summary from a very influential Reformed theologian on the three-fold vision of the Law of God:

Seeing by the Law Sin is, and the Law was not before Moses: (Rom 5.13.) it seemeth there is no Sin until Moses?
When it is said, the Law was not before Moses, it is to be understood of the Law written in the Tables of Stone by the Finger of God, and other Laws Ceremonial and Political written by Moses at the Commandment of God. For otherwise the Law (the Ceremonial excepted) was written in the Heart of Man; and for the Decay thereof through sin, taught by those to whom that belonged, from the Fall unto Moses.

Cheers,

 

[jandrusk]

The article is litered with so many inconsistencies and contextual misrepresentations I cannot see how you could classify it outside of heresy. One of the statements in regards to the need for Christians to still honor the Sabbath was, "Is there anyone who believes this?". Hmm, let me see...maybe the church of Christ for the majority of it's lifecycle! Even the pagans recognized the need to set aside a day of rest to honor their fictious deities and author claims it's folly for Christians to honor the Sabbath. I wonder if the author has read anything as to the history of the church. Final conclustion: dispensationalist, move on.

 

[Christusregnat]

If you want to discuss this start a new thread so as not to sidetrack this one.

It's related: the law was written in man's heart before the fall, ergo, the New Covenant doesn't change the image of God.

Cheers,

 

[NaphtaliPress]

Don't argue with the moderator Adam.

 

[torstar]

The Law and the Christian « SGF Canada


If you had friends who believed this, how would you respond?

Used to believe this, then found I didn't any more and had to join a confessional Reformed church.

I'll save them 11 pages of wandering and condense it all to "curb, mirror, rule."

 

[jwright82]

I think that the article leaves a lot of questions unaswered but those questions are a razor's edge from a theonomy discussion and out of respect for the OP I won't bring them up. One question though is: this was called basically Dispensational but what is the difference between this view and Kline's view?

 

[cih1355]

Here is a quote from the article:

‘He (God) forgave us our sins, having cancelled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.’ (Col.2:13,14). This is clearly talking about the whole Mosaic law. Paul says elsewhere that God has abolished in Christ’s flesh the law with its commandments and regulations (Eph.2:15).

If you look up Col. 2:13-14 in the NASB, you will see that it says that Christ canceled the certificate of debt that was against us. Christ is the One who paid our debt of sin. Believers are no longer condemned by God's law. This passage of Scripture is not saying that God's law has been abrogated. We incurred a debt by breaking God's law and because of that debt we deserve to be condemned. Jesus came to pay the debt of sin. If you are a believer in Christ, then God's law no longer condemns you because Jesus paid your debt.

Isn't Ephesians 2:15 talking about the fact that believers in Christ are no longer condemned by God's law?