I think you should be deciding that together as you are both following Christ. Your his wife, not his child. Ya'll should be studying both sides of the issue together and then eventually, you should come to an agreement together.
I mean...thats what it says...
First, this isn't how wisdom literature works. It takes wisdom to apply proverbs because you have to know where the proverb fits. Is this an "Answer the fool according to his folly" situation or a "Don't answer a fool according to his folly"? It depends; some proverbs have universal applicability, others don't. It's not clear to me why you have applied this proverb just to teenagers rather than wives, servants, infants, or the state discipline of offenders: the proverb doesn't say "Beat a teenager until he is bruised." So your conclusion doesn't rest simply on "that's what it says"
Serious question: Do you leave bruises on your children when you discipline them?
Your question is answered by post #22 of this thread, back on page 1.
Well sure. But in the case of disagreement, is not the wife supposed to defer to her husband's judgment as long as he is not asking her to sin? And anyway, that's not the point of this post.
Would this not be the same idea for the rod passages as well? Why then must we appeal to "wisdom" outside the text of the rod passages in proverbs to come up with a doctrine of "spanking"?
Are you paedo or credo? I guess thats my next question. I actually forbid my wife (ironically) to defer to my judgment even if (I think) it ends up me being right. The devil is a lot more subtle that just "asking" or "suggesting" something black and white. There is a reason Eve was decieved since it required ignorance of something the devil could latch onto. I always want her to own things for herself and not because im the man. You could say we are a board of directors
The "rod" passages do explicitly connect discipline with youth (Prov. 22:15; 23:13; 29:15). But yes, basic interpretation of any Biblical proverb involves wisdom. Do I have to spank for every offense? What range of ages does na'ar cover? Do I have to use a rod or will my hand serve adequately? Since the Hebrew word shebet can mean "cudgel" as well as "rod," should I discipline my child with a cudgel? Any single proverb will not give you a complete philosophy of child discipline, and if we use the wrong proverb for the particular situation, then we can do severe damage (Prov. 26:7, 9).
Of course not! Not at five, two and seven months. These are not na'arim's. I dont hit them at all, lol.
Actually, in Biblical terms they are ne'arim (if they are boys), as I demonstrated in my earlier post (see 1 Sam. 4:21; Exod. 2:6). na'ar is a term with very broad semantic range. But that doesn't mean you should beat them black and blue (there is actually nothing color related in the Hebrew of Prov. 20:30: these are "Blows that wound"). Again, Proverbs don't become meaningless just because we don't interpret them as literal commands: nobody interprets Proverbs 25:24 as an instruction to live on the corner of your roof because you happen to have a quarrelsome wife. We interpret proverbs as proverbs, and let them guide our behavior appropriately. I cited John Gill to give one example of how Reformed interpretation of this proverb has not in the past seen it as instruction for child discipline. Can you give examples of well-respected Reformed scholars who agree with your position?
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