Soft Cessationism

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David073

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It has come to my attention that there are some in the RPCNA and Covenanter communities that hold to what is known as “soft cessationism”. Basically from my understanding it is that God may, in extraordinary circumstances, raise up prophets. As an example some believe that Jan Hus was such an individual who prophesied of Martin Luther and the Protestant reformation. They also say that many reformers held to this sort of perspective.

I am currently a firm cessationist, but am wanting to learn more of this view. For those of you who hold to this perspective do you mind explaining why? Thanks!
 
I read an excellent essay about lower case "p" prophecy and upper case "P" prophecy being reserved for Scripture only. Kind of like lower case "s" sermon we all sit under every Sunday and upper case "S" sermon given in Scripture (on the Mount, Acts 2 et al)

I am not one of these "softies". I am with you, but I imagine that is a factor in what they believe.
 
I read an excellent essay about lower case "p" prophecy and upper case "P" prophecy being reserved for Scripture only. Kind of like lower case "s" sermon we all sit under every Sunday and upper case "S" sermon given in Scripture (on the Mount, Acts 2 et al)

I am not one of these "softies". I am with you, but I imagine that is a factor in what they believe.
Are you able to link the essay?
 
Are you able to link the essay?

Sorry it is inside a book.

Duguid, Iain, “What Kind of Prophecy Continues? Defining the Differences Between Continuationism and Cessationism” in John M. Frame, ed. Redeeming the Life of the Mind: Essays in Honor of Vern Poythress. Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 2017.
 
The basis for some of this (not the extremes) is in an old Scottish view found in Durham, Gillespie, Rutherford, etc. See https://www.puritanboard.com/threads/525/page-6#post-127378 The Jan Hus "prophecy" is disproven and I think we need to approach a lot of these things with a grain of salt. That being said, I think having a category of extraordinary providences for prediction like things is the way to go rather than affirming the office can be raised up again.
 
I think the idea comes from two sources, or principles:

1) In Covenanter history and indeed in Reformed history there have been occasions when men have had a 'sense' of something that was about to happen e.g. Alexander Peden was reputed to have has such insights at times - to the extent he became know as Peden the Prophet.

2) It is also a development, or implication of the Confession of Faith Cp5:3 "God, in his ordinary providence, maketh use of means, yet is free to work without,above, and against them, at his pleasure."

In other words it may happen but not normally.
 
2) It is also a development, or implication of the Confession of Faith Cp5:3 "God, in his ordinary providence, maketh use of means, yet is free to work without,above, and against them, at his pleasure."

In other words it may happen but not normally.
“Dreams are either natural, or supernatural, or preternatural. How to distinguish the former from the two latter is not my work in this place, and possibly a difficult task, especially in our times, when God, having spoken to us by his Son, and given us his word as a perfect rule, hath left off ordinary speaking to his prophets by dreams and visions, though not limited himself but that he may sometimes so speak" Matthew Poole, Commentary on Matthew 1:21
 
Sorry it is inside a book.

Duguid, Iain, “What Kind of Prophecy Continues? Defining the Differences Between Continuationism and Cessationism” in John M. Frame, ed. Redeeming the Life of the Mind: Essays in Honor of Vern Poythress. Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway, 2017.
I sent him a private message here not too long ago and he was very kind and sent me an attachment with the essay. It is excellent in my opinion. I don't want to take the liberty of forwarding it but you could ask. When you start a conversation up top with the envelope symbol, he is iainduguid.
 
Here is a short interaction with the essay by Prof. Duguid in the volume for Vern Poythress.

Prof. Duguid stages his discussion between Gaffin and Grudem, representatives of cessationism and continuationism respectively. He makes a distinction between capital-P prophecy or "Thus saith the Lord" type activity and lowercase-p prophecy or a wider range of Spirit-inspired activities. He then proceeds to investigate the OT for the different uses of "prophecy" to substantiate this distinction.

One main argument is that there is a certain kind of activity which does not involve others listening to what is said, and this falls under the broader name of prophecy. These appear to be ecstatic statements. This has to be granted. And yet I cannot help but notice that this activity falls within a broader movement that is distinctly tied to "redemptive history." Peter gives expression to this overall prophetic thrust in Acts 3:24, "Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days." Even if no one is listening it seems to have a purpose related to the fact that revelation is progressive and the line of redemptive history is being marked out for the reader. This appears to me to be a significant point in this discussion which receives little to no attention.

The essay then turns to an examination of the NT. It is difficult to evaluate this section. It concludes with an "if" statement. But the "if" statement is the whole point in debate. Only if you allow the NT to reflect the diversity of what has been presented from the OT will the strictures of Gaffin's position be lifted. Here again I am struck by the fact that the NT is setting before us significant developments in the history of redemption, especially as the revelation of God branches out to incorporate the Gentiles.

Then we are introduced to the prophethood of all believers. Again we are faced with an "if" statement. Small p activity might be subsumed under this category. Of course there is one glaring problem here -- it now applies to "all" believers. In becoming universal it has ceased to be particular, and in ceasing to be particular it has ceased to describe the phenomenon we witness in either the OT or the NT. This poses a major problem. Why is small p prophecy particular in both testaments but universal now? Is this a "continuation?" No. A whole new feature has entered into it -- it can now serve no function in demarcating the development of revelation or the history of redemption. It is completely severed from this context.

I personally agree that there is a prophethood of all believers, which is nothing other than the anointing we have received from Christ to know all things necessary for our salvation, as taught in First John. But that is all it could be. It is the knowledge we share with one another on the basis of the Spirit's work in our lives bringing us to confess Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour. It cannot be anything more than that. As soon as it becomes more than that it becomes particular, and if it is particular it does not apply to all believers because it does not pertain to our "common salvation."

The knowledge we have of our common salvation -- the anointing we have received from Christ to be prophets -- must be regulated by Scripture from first to last. We often speak of not going beyond what is written. There is no room here for the type of knowledge that the "small p" prophets revealed. Hence the category of the prophethood of all believers, as intriguing as it might be, turns out to be a dead end.

I suppose that if there is to be a category of soft cessationism Prof. Duguid's essay is a good place to turn to give it some substance. But I am still left in the same place asking the same question I have always had -- How does something that ceased still continue? Every time someone tries to answer that question they end up introducing some new thing that had no place in the Scriptures, so it is not really a continuation of Scriptural phenomena.
 
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Garnet Howard Milne wrote a book on the topic, The Westminster Confession of Faith and the Cessation of Special Revelation: The Majority Puritan Viewpoint on Whether Extra-Biblical Prophecy is Still Possible.

The publisher's blurb says,

In the opening chapter of the Confession, the divines of Westminster included a clause that implied that there would no longer be any special immediate revelation from God. Means by which God had once communicated the divine will, such as dreams, visions, and the miraculous gifts of the Spirit, were said to be no longer available. However, many of the authors of the WCF accepted that "prophecy" continued in their time, and a number of them apparently believed that disclosure of God's will through dreams, visions, and angelic communication remained possible. How is the "cessationist" clause of WCF 1:1 to be read in the light of these claims? This book reconciles this paradox in a detailed study of the writings of the authors of the Westminster Confession of Faith.​

It's an interesting study.

Milne also wrote, Has the Bible been kept pure? The Westminster Confession of Faith and the providential preservation of Scripture.
 
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I sent him a private message here not too long ago and he was very kind and sent me an attachment with the essay. It is excellent in my opinion. I don't want to take the liberty of forwarding it but you could ask. When you start a conversation up top with the envelope symbol, he is iainduguid.

Tell that to the OP, not me. I already have it.
 
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