The Book - Good Bye, Good Men

[Scott]

I recently finished Good Bye, Good Men by Michael Rose. This is a book by a conservative Catholic describing the problems with the current RC priesthood.

http://tinyurl.com/6ec3n

Anyway, he documents many of the corruptions in the Cathlolic priesthood. One example is the number of homosexuals (including active ones). As Donald Cozzens (a rector of a Catholic seminary) has noted, the Catholic priesthood is becoming a gay profession. Rose also documents the extent of liberalism and heterodoxy (by any standard) in Catholic seminaries.

There is such a divergence between the majority of Catholics (in America at least) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other official documents that mainstream Catholicism is indistinguishable on material points from liberal Protestantism.

You should give this book to someone considering converting to Catholicism. It could have more impact than pure apologetics. Apologetics are inapposite for many US parishes, as Protestant apologetics are aimed at classic Catholic teaching rather than the liberalism that pervades their churches.

{EDIT: Replaced long url with Tinyurl and clarified title}

[Edited on 11/8/2004 by fredtgreco]



[Edited on 11-9-2004 by Scott Bushey]

 

[crhoades]

Originally posted by Scott
I recently finished Good Bye, Good Men by Michael Rose. This is a book by a conservative Catholic describing the problems with the current RC priesthood.

http://tinyurl.com/6ec3n

Anyway, he documents many of the corruptions in the Cathlolic priesthood. One example is the number of homosexuals (including active ones). As Donald Cozzens (a rector of a Catholic seminary) has noted, the Catholic priesthood is becoming a gay profession. Rose also documents the extent of liberalism and heterodoxy (by any standard) in Catholic seminaries.

There is such a divergence between the majority of Catholics (in America at least) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other official documents that mainstream Catholicism is indistinguishable on material points from liberal Protestantism.

You should give this book to someone considering converting to Catholicism. It could have more impact than pure apologetics. Apologetics are inapposite for many US parishes, as Protestant apologetics are aimed at classic Catholic teaching rather than the liberalism that pervades their churches.

The only downside is the reverse is true. Catholics have for a long time pointed to the splintering of denominations as well as the liberal tendencies as reasons to stay with the mother church. Not to mention as far as people adhering to the catechisms etc. - I would hate to take a poll in the PCA to see how many in the pew would subscribe or even understand half of the WCF, WLC, WSC. Hopefully I'm just pessimistic on these numbers.

I still say that for RC's or people contemplating it should come down to justification. Either they're right or we're right. They can't budge on Trent. We don't have to.

I still would love to read the book though. Does anyone know of a good RC Systematic other than the Summae?

[Edited on 11/8/2004 by fredtgreco]

 

[Me Died Blue]

The book sounds interesting. Until I noticed that this thread was in the Library forum, though, I thought you were leaving!

 

[RamistThomist]

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[Scott]

Chris: Nobody with children will want to be in the Roman church after reading this. (Not that the newspapers or the Massachussetts Attorney General's report were not enough). It further undermines the sense of history, reverential liturgy, and traditional doctrine that many Protestant converts seek in Rome. At a practical level, they will likely be getting mainline liberalism, depending where they are.