Why Baptists should Baptize Their Babies

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Corey Powell

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Aldo solved it! :banana: - "Just stop being Baptist"

Kingdom Polemics just posted this video. I found it a helpful summary of answers to Baptist objections to paedobaptism.


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Could you summarize the summary?
Obviously nothing new, but for those like myself who are new to the reformed side, it goes it bit more in-depth than most other accessible videos I've seen. And I like that he takes some time to focus on the concept of a "household" and where that plays in as opposed to just talking about children/physical descent.

this is his summary from the description:
  • The Hermeneutical Principle of Good and Necessary Consequences: Understanding how Scripture informs theology beyond explicit statements.
  • Covenant Continuity: A discussion on how the Covenant of Grace extends across both Old and New Testaments, affirming the inclusion of households.
  • The Meaning of Baptism: Why baptism signifies God’s covenant promises rather than merely individual faith.
  • Biblical Basis for Paedobaptism: Examination of scriptural passages such as Romans 4, Colossians 2, and Acts 2 that support the practice.
  • Addressing Common Baptist Objections: A detailed response to concerns about household baptisms, the role of faith, and the timing of baptism.
  • Covenantal Representation: Exploring the biblical principle of God dealing with groups based on representative heads.
 
Doesn't look like anything at all new or convincing...:rolleyes: ...and a rather annoying presentation to boot...:eek:

From what I understand, this fellow is rapidly undergoing some significant changes in theology and worship convictions; many of which I am probably quite sympathetic with. However, his podcast comes across as very cagey and juvenile; it seems best to simmer down and get more refined arguments for various things before speaking broadly about them publicly.
 
A far less annoying presentation against Baptists for paedobaptism is in the excellent Youtube channel "ancient paths tv" run by an OPC church in Utah I think.

I disagree with them on baptism (of course) but they have superb documentaries on lots of false religions and false beliefs that are well-researched and calmly and logically destructive to the other side - which is always directly quoted so no straw man can be claimed.

I wish I could put a plug here for an engaging documentary style rebuttal to the "ancient paths" but Presbyterians seem to have more technically savvy Youtubers than we do. Our sources would be boring books, talking heads on podcasts etc. hahahaha
 
.... excellent Youtube channel "ancient paths tv" run by an OPC church in Utah I think.

Yes that would be the Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna, Utah.

That was the 2nd Reformed Church I ever visited in my life, as I was there in Utah visiting family in SLC and needed a church to visit while I was there. Pastor Jason Wallace was the first guy that ever explained paedobaptism to me from the Presbyterian Covenant Theology angle. It was a great conversation, and it almost had me convinced.
 
Yes that would be the Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna, Utah.

That was the 2nd Reformed Church I ever visited in my life, as I was there in Utah visiting family in SLC and needed a church to visit while I was there. Pastor Jason Wallace was the first guy that ever explained paedobaptism to me from the Presbyterian Covenant Theology angle. It was a great conversation, and it almost had me convinced.

He seems like a truly relaxed and engaging thinker. He even has no problem hosting credobaptists to speak on his channel.
 
1Tim.3:6 counsels the church to ward against promoting men as teachers who are too inexperienced, too brash, in short more likely than not to fall into pride. Not that experienced men cannot also be proud, but these have often stumbled and more of them know the reality of weakness and failure, along with correct doctrine.

Heb.5:12 has the author rebuking some of his audience for failing to have attained the level of skill in true doctrine, that they might be effective teachers. Rather, these need remedial instruction themselves. The warning serves all who accept they might be moving confidently in the wrong direction, dragging others along with them if so be they have adopted a novelty as "mystery revealed." Such men take their powerful conviction as sufficient proof of their doctrine, and do not know the whole argument for, neither cogent arguments against their position.

I have dealt with this in the case of paedocommunion error. Without proposing the youtuber in view must be thus, it bears concern that another poster has already noted his rapidly adjusting theological stance. It seems to me the more mature reaction in a teacher to an evolution of views within him is: to pause in his exercise of teaching. Let the new views settle. Then, before promoting what are settled conviction (on better ground than the old), he publicly rebukes himself for his previous error and promotion of it. He asks humbly if his audience is willing to forgive, and continue with him as he with greater care, patience, and compassion corrects the old error he once built up in them--which may resist his new effort.

1Cor.4:7 tells us that our every possession of truth is a gift of God. It is mercy to be turned from error. Pride goeth before a fall. It creates the conditions where men run into error, and greater error.
 
1Tim.3:6 counsels the church to ward against promoting men as teachers who are too inexperienced, too brash, in short more likely than not to fall into pride.
I apologize for sharing this then. I don't know much about him, just that he's had some other helpful videos on covenant theology and that he is an ordained TE in the PCA in Miami. I had seen other videos shared by him on the form so I figured he was a voice worth hearing.
 
I apologize for sharing this then. I don't know much about him, just that he's had some other helpful videos on covenant theology and that he is an ordained TE in the PCA in Miami. I had seen other videos shared by him on the form so I figured he was a voice worth hearing.
I don't want you to have a sense of shame for sharing the vid. While I'm cautious about the presenter--being as ignorant as you or more with respect to him--I made an effort to avoid a caricature of him personally by my comment.

Yet, still it is true that in this era of internet celebrity, often within a narrow scope of a single tradition, men gather a following more for their early mastery of a communication medium, than for their seasoned ability to soberly teach truth to others. One form of notoriety is that of the "bold contoversialist," one whose reputation is all about confrontation. Fighters are attractive, but we should ask why this sort have inordinate prominence above those who are marked by the meekness and gentleness of Christ.

When someone in the thread alerts us to the testimony that this presenter is "on the move" theologically, in some way, we should be careful if promoting even one idea if he should soon prove an unsafe guide. I should say the same warning over myself, if I were shifting about.
 
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