Phillip,
Are you calling me a liar??
Ace-Phillip,
I do not care about Kerry I agree with both of you that this should not be used for politics.
OK lets take a look at my so called links and see what we find since you don't want to believe me because the only ting you can muster up is that I'm a left wing nut who supports Kerry and that I'm making a big deal out of nothing
I have done my best to highlight or bolden information I would suggest you need to read with an open mind because frankly it may offend you that people in our government might actually be evil.
Red Cross Report Describes Abuse in Iraq
May 10, 8:59 AM (ET)
By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS
GENEVA (AP) - (I excerpted Important parts of the article which can be found here-
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040510/D82FNPA80.html )
"up to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake, according to a report disclosed Monday.
The report by the International Committee of the Red Cross supports its allegations that abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers was broad and "not individual acts" - contrary to President Bush's contention that the mistreatment "was the wrongdoing of a few."
"Sometimes they arrested all adult males present in a house, including elderly, handicapped or sick people," it said. "Treatment often included pushing people around, insulting, taking aim with rifles, punching and kicking and striking with rifles."
It said some coalition military intelligence officers estimated "between 70 percent and 90 percent of the persons deprived of their liberty in Iraq had been arrested by mistake. They also attributed the brutality of some arrests to the lack of proper supervision of battle group units."
had been telling U.S. officials in detail between March and November 2003 "either in direct face-to-face conversations or in written interventions."
Kraehenbuehl said the abuse of prisoners represented more than isolated acts, and that the problems were not limited to Abu Ghraib.
"We were dealing here with a broad pattern, not individual acts. There was a pattern and a system," he said, declining to give further details.
The report described how male prisoners were forced to parade around in women's underwear.
It said that information obtained "suggested the use of ill-treatment against persons deprived of their liberty went beyond exceptional cases and might be considered a practice tolerated by" coalition forces.
My comments,
This article highlights that the torture-abuse was ongoing from the afghan war to the Iraq war and that it was a widespread problem.
Here is an article(
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/) detailing the following:
1. That the CIA and Contracted Soldiers were apart of this Issue.
2. There are AT LEAST five other on going investigations this should reiterate the magnitude of this shameful tragedy.
3. Threats were made saying that photos of the victim being abused-tortured would be shown to family members to get them to speak-Saddam did the same thing worse but if doesn't stop we will get just as bad!!!
4. It also highlights how rep and dem alike are using this for an election time attack-disgusting.
5. Soldiers charged say MI told them to do these acts this is obviously a failure in command which needs to be addressed.
6. DOD has said that there is more shocking images and video yet to be seen.
7. Up to 1,000 photos depicting abuse.
8. Rumsfeld described the other photos as sadistic.
If you search around the links on this site more info is given.
One has got to wonder why we would sign the Geneva convention if we are not going to train our men properly in oder to follow those guidelines in which we agreed upon?
http://www.genevaconventions.org/ <--- The Geneva convention.
In order for us to win the Iraq public over we must must show we are the better man that despite how he(Saddam) has treated them and our men we will be the better man and fight with honor, and shew Justice to all men as is according to law. We must not take vengeance in our hand for the sake of doing it no matter how much they may deserve it as human to human do what is right. Are we going to be an animal or we going to exemplify our integrity by honoring our fellow man by showing justice according to law whether there be war or peace!!
We must realize that regardless if the other man has no standards we must. It doesnt matter if the enemy does nto uphold morals we must.
Im to stop here for right now Im about worn out but if you cant get a clue from what Ive posted then there is no hope for to understand this outside of saying 'well he's just using this for political advantage cause sean or rush said so and thats my source for truth'
My:wr50:,
Blade
