Well some Holy-Days are a misnomer, Halloween. I guess calling a home school an academy is a misnomer as well. But I have not busted you on that have I..............oooops just did. Sorry wrong answer, but please don't stop being a Lady on my account! By the bye shouldn't you be teaching or something?
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Ivan
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Not good, Max, not good.
SHE SAID I WORSHIPPED BAAL!!!
Whether they are practices of Papists is, in my opinion, neither here nor there. What concerns me is whether Scripture commands it. Is it worship? Why do it? As I am unable to find it in the BCP of 1662 (please correct me if I am wrong) I would also say that it may be best if Anglicans give it a miss.
Ivan
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Well, I'll add one more post here and let Colleen reply, but Max you mentioned Baal, not Colleen.
I don't know any Baptist church that observes ash Wednesday (although I am sure there are some). Having been rescued out of the Roman system, I have a distaste for anything that even smells like Rome. I don't see the biblical mandate for it, so it is not something I would practice.
As far as giving up something for lent...I'm not favorable towards the practice. If I am going to give something up for lent, I might as well give it up all together. Why limit self-sacrifice to just lent?
Anway.....just my
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I don't know any Baptist church that observes ash Wednesday (although I am sure there are some). Having been rescued out of the Roman system, I have a distaste for anything that even smells like Rome. I don't see the biblical mandate for it, so it is not something I would practice.
As far as giving up something for lent...I'm not favorable towards the practice. If I am going to give something up for lent, I might as well give it up all together. Why limit self-sacrifice to just lent?
Anway.....just my
The reasons baptists don't observe it Bill is because we're so perfect.
I'm leaving this thread locked because it got out of hand but I took it out of a protected "eyes-only" forum because there is some instructive material here on the Regulative Principle of Worship.
First, let me make a note on Colleen's post. She accused nobody of Baal worship. The golden calf was not Baal worship and one only need to read both instances where Levi introduces the golden calf and where Jeroboam reintroduces the idol. Even the Rabbis, in commentary, understood that this was worship of Jehovah but it was the addition of an element he did not command (a symbol).
Second, let's not pretend that proper worship is some sort of anciliary issue that is inconsequential. The strictest condemnation is leveled agains Israel primarily for her false worship. The Reformed have always had a much more strict principle of worhsip. Anglicanism has a different principle of worship than the Reformed do. This is a Reformed board. If you don't want to hear what the Reformed believe the Scriptures teach on a subject then don't post an issue regarding worship.
Third, let me state this as delicately as a man who has firm conviction can: toughen up people. We are not to be the type that shrink back from such things. This is not a Victorian tea party. In issues of consequence, we should be man enough to withstand withering criticism. We should also see criticism, if it's Scriptural, as a way to examine ourselves.
Fourth, I will not accept the idea that criticism and rebuke and debate is discord. Some people have an idea that as soon as somebody says something that is misunderstood and a temper flares up that there is discord. The idea of "iron sharpening iron" is one of friction and some strife. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend" points to the fact that sometimes discussions may wound. The wise look at wounds in a way to improve. We certainly need to watch our speech and guard our tongues from being mean or petty but people who are easily offended need to examine their own hearts for, even as we are commanded not to unnecessarily give offense we are also called not to be those who are easily offended.
Grace and Peace,
Rich
First, let me make a note on Colleen's post. She accused nobody of Baal worship. The golden calf was not Baal worship and one only need to read both instances where Levi introduces the golden calf and where Jeroboam reintroduces the idol. Even the Rabbis, in commentary, understood that this was worship of Jehovah but it was the addition of an element he did not command (a symbol).
Second, let's not pretend that proper worship is some sort of anciliary issue that is inconsequential. The strictest condemnation is leveled agains Israel primarily for her false worship. The Reformed have always had a much more strict principle of worhsip. Anglicanism has a different principle of worship than the Reformed do. This is a Reformed board. If you don't want to hear what the Reformed believe the Scriptures teach on a subject then don't post an issue regarding worship.
Third, let me state this as delicately as a man who has firm conviction can: toughen up people. We are not to be the type that shrink back from such things. This is not a Victorian tea party. In issues of consequence, we should be man enough to withstand withering criticism. We should also see criticism, if it's Scriptural, as a way to examine ourselves.
Fourth, I will not accept the idea that criticism and rebuke and debate is discord. Some people have an idea that as soon as somebody says something that is misunderstood and a temper flares up that there is discord. The idea of "iron sharpening iron" is one of friction and some strife. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend" points to the fact that sometimes discussions may wound. The wise look at wounds in a way to improve. We certainly need to watch our speech and guard our tongues from being mean or petty but people who are easily offended need to examine their own hearts for, even as we are commanded not to unnecessarily give offense we are also called not to be those who are easily offended.
Grace and Peace,
Rich
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