Changed ones mind

[moral necessity]

I would like to thank all of you once again on the PB for your efforts to interact very passionately for truth, and for the good links to books and sermons. I am thankful to God for the patience to read and correct some ideas that might not be as accurate as they should be.

Thanks to you as well Anthony!

Blessings!

 

[Augusta]

I have changed just about everything. I learned and accepted the doctrines of grace around 1995 but I didn't know anything else, and no one around me did either. Through God's providence my husband came to the same understanding around 1997. By 2003 my husband and I were ready to leave our old church. We finally left our old church in 2004. Before that we subsisted on RC Sproul and White Horse Inn. So we were clean slates essentially because we knew we didn't know anything. I watched the various debates here on the PB on each of the big issues and changed my views as I began to understand them. Credo--> Paedo, uninspired hymnody--> exclusive psalmody, and headcovering. I am still chewing on eschatology and a few other things. I am still constantly learning and like Rich I have a ha moments all the time.

 

[Grymir]

Davidius

Deacon = somebody who wants to serve. Elders= well, you know.

Many people want the title, but don't want to do the work. I was a deacon in a little country church because the more 'aged' people would sign up, then not do the work it required. I was a 3 year believer and was drafted. Best church learning experience I ever had. My newness and commitment to Reformed doctrine was needed in the church and the pastor told me so when I asked him, "why me?"

Of course I only speak for me.

Deacons - Serving humanity just by showing up.

 

[Reformed Covenanter]

Became a Theonomist in 2006. Other than that, I have not moved significantly on a theological issue since 2002.

Daniel you are only 16 anyway right?

26.

 

[AV1611]

My most recent change of mind has been from seeing no problem with the celebration of extra-biblical Holy Days to seeing it as wrong to celebrate any Holy Day other than the Sabbath or Lord's Day.

 

[Jimmy the Greek]

This is a most enjoyable thread.

I was saved into a dispensational Bible church at age 30, which basically taught 4-point Calvinism and pre-trib, premill eschatology.

By 40 I had moved away from dispensationalism to 1689 LBCF thinking. I am sympathetic to aspects of both historic premill and amill views and therefore refer to myself as a panmill, i.e. it will all pan out in the end.

By 50, I moved from an ignorant (uninformed) kind of "dual reference" and/or Amyraldian thinking to John Owen and Turretin's take on the atonement.

I'm now over 60. Ha!

 

[KMK]

These posts reminded me of some other changes as well...

Loosey goosey giver to tither
Loosey goosey worshipper to RPW
Loosey goosey church attender to Sanctifying the Lord's Day
Loosey goosey cake and 7-Up to wine w/communion
Loosey goosey home churcher to Confessional Christian

 

[Ivan]

Loosey goosey home churcher to Confessional Christian

Question: Can one be a "home churcher" and be confessional?

 

[5solasmom]

When and what is the last time you have changed your mind regarding a biblical doctrine?

From credo to paedo in 2006.

 

[govols]

From shallow bilble blogs to Puritanboard in 2004.

 

[govols]

Dittos on the dispensationalism with me too!

Unless you count that I used to be a long-haired, hippie tree-huggin, new-age liberal about 10 yrs ago, and now I'm a short haired, chain-saw lovin' Bible believen' Conservative Calvinist (NOT a neo-con either!!)

Technically you are a neocon:
As a term, neoconservative first was used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington to identify a group of people (who described themselves as liberals) as newly stimulated conservative ex-liberals. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" is neoconservatism's central theme.

 

[KMK]

Loosey goosey home churcher to Confessional Christian

Question: Can one be a "home churcher" and be confessional?

I think it might be possible. (Look at the church in Acts) But I also think that it is rare.

In my experience, 'home churching' always lacks the following:

LBC 26:8 A particular church, gathered and completely organized according to the mind of Christ, consists of officers and members; and the officers appointed by Christ to be chosen and set apart by the church (so called and gathered), for the peculiar administration of ordinances, and execution of power or duty, which he intrusts them with, or calls them to, to be continued to the end of the world, are bishops or elders, and deacons.

26:10 The work of pastors being constantly to attend the service of Christ, in his churches, in the ministry of the word and prayer, with watching for their souls, as they that must give an account to Him; it is incumbent on the churches to whom they minister, not only to give them all due respect, but also to communicate to them of all their good things according to their ability, so as they may have a comfortable supply, without being themselves entangled in secular affairs; and may also be capable of exercising hospitality towards others; and this is required by the law of nature, and by the express order of our Lord Jesus, who hath ordained that they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel.

26:12 As all believers are bound to join themselves to particular churches, when and where they have opportunity so to do; so all that are admitted unto the privileges of a church, are also under the censures and government thereof, according to the rule of Christ.

28:2 These holy appointments are to be administered by those only who are qualified and thereunto called, according to the commission of Christ.

As I said it might be possible to have a church with membership, officers, tithes and offerings for the pastor, censure and government that simply meets in a person's home instead of a church building. However, I have never seen or heard of it being done for long.

I could go on but I am afraid I have already gone enough.

If anybody has questions about the home church movement feel free to PM me.

 

[FenderPriest]

Over the past 12 months or so I've become increasingly Christocentric in my understanding of the world, Bible, life, marriage, etc. This was started by reading Owen Volume 1 (Declaration of the Glorious Mystery of the Person of Christ and Meditations), put into fuller expression through a lesson I taught at my old church, and then exploded through my studying of John and the nature of Christian philosophy. Simply put, I've begun to see how all things were made "through and for" Christ.

Over the past 6 months I've become a mild theonomist.

Over the last month or two, I've increasingly been focusing on my heart being affected by these glorious truths in the Scriptures. I've particularly started focusing on understanding the nature of the union between Christ and this church and seeing it's centrality in Scripture's teaching. For example, while I've held Particular Redemption for a while, I've recently (as in the last week) been so deeply affected by the glory of this truth! My heart soars in worship to God when I study and learn this doctrine more fully. So, I imagine all this could be said that my theology has become increasingly more experiential (or experimental, as Owen and Edwards impress).

 

[Reformed Covenanter]

Loosey goosey home churcher to Confessional Christian

Question: Can one be a "home churcher" and be confessional?

in my opinion no; since the Confession has a chapter on "The Church", and demands that a Christian attend public worship and be subject to church discipline.

 

[Jim]

From Scofield-carrying Dispensational to 5 pointer.
From cesationist to ... maybe.
Am currently working through the regulatory principle (and agree in theory?).
Gained an appreciation for theonomy.
I don't think I'll be moving from pre-mill, paedo.
From Dunkin Donuts to Starbucks to WaWa.
From Army to Navy.

 

[Josiah]

Rough Chronological order -

(beautifull spring of 2002)
The Lord drew me to himself -
I started to attend my old Assemblies of God Church -

(2003)
From charismatic to cessationist

(early 2004)
Left the Assemblies of God Church I grew up in
Started reading a sermon by
From Arminianism to 5 point Calvinism
Started to attend an OPC church.
Convinced of the RPW
Started to become convinced of keeping the lords day.

(early 2006)
Became Amill over and against Dispensational premillennial in New member class
Became Convinced of Presbyterianism over and against independancy
Joined EOPC with my Wife and was baptized

Present - Considering EP

In re-calling all of these things I am moved to a greater appreciation of the Lord working in my life praise be to God for his work in all our lives!

 

[DMcFadden]

One of the interesting commonalities of many of the posts in this thread is the way in which so many found that the doctrines of grace, particularly the particular atonement, caused them to give glory to God. As my pressure at work has increased over the last couple of years, knowing the sweetness of God's glorious message bubbles up in me in praise to our sovereign and gracious Lord.

 

[Augusta]

I was reminded of a couple more. I am now a sabbatarian. Before we were loosey goosey about that to borrow a term. I also believe wine should be used in the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. I think I for the most part now subscribe to the original Westminster Confession.

 

[Zenas]

Heathen to Christian in 2005.

You've only been a believer since 2005? That seems like a short amount of time before being appointed to a Church office.

I was appointed to a church office in 2007. Eldership is the only office with a requirement that it not be for a young believer. My church's situation is also not ideal; so yes, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with me. They also made me a Sunday School teacher, but the Lord has grown me up in knowledge quickly. Wisdom.... well... working on that part.

"There is not so great a fool as a knowing fool..."

 

[jaybird0827]

Last big change happened some time in 1994:

• Returned to the AV after a 20-year fling with the NASB.
• Became EP.

 

[Grymir]

O.K. Govols - I am not a liberal who slithered into the conservative camp!!

Quote "democratic socialist Michael Harrington to identify a group of people (who described themselves as liberals) as newly stimulated conservative ex-liberals. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" is neoconservatism's central theme."

The idea that liberalism no longer knew what it was talking about does not apply to me. Old-School liberals and new libs are both idiots and neither one of them knows what they are talking about.

I was a liberal because that is what the public schools are teaching our children and they did teach me that ungodly stuff. I used to be young dumb and stupid. God got ahold of me and turned me 180 degrees to denounce my idiot ways.

I am not a neo-con because, well, real conservatives understand.

 

[VirginiaHuguenot]

Converted by God's grace from the Baha'i Faith to Evangelicalism - 1989
Embraced Literal Six (24-Hour) Day / Young Earth Creationism -1989
Embraced the Establishment Principle - 1990
Embraced theocracy (not theonomy) - 1990
Embraced the doctrines of grace / Reformed Faith - 1991
Embraced the original Westminster Confession of Faith - 1991
Embraced Presbyterian polity / baptism - 1991
Embraced the regulative principle of worship / a cappella exclusive psalmody - 1991
Embraced the Christian Sabbath / rejected man-made holy days - 1991
Embraced the use of wine (not grape juice) in the Lord's Supper - 1991
Embraced presuppositional apologetics - 1992
Embraced cessationism - 1992
Embrace postmillennialism - 1992
Embraced common grace - 1992
Embraced the majority text - 1992

 

[RamistThomist]

Converted by God's grace from the Baha'i Faith to Evangelicalism - 1989
Embraced Literal Six (24-Hour) Day / Young Earth Creationism -1989
Embraced the Establishment Principle - 1990
Embraced theocracy (not theonomy) - 1990
Embraced the doctrines of grace / Reformed Faith - 1991
Embraced the original Westminster Confession of Faith - 1991
Embraced Presbyterian polity / baptism - 1991
Embraced the regulative principle of worship / a cappella exclusive psalmody - 1991
Embraced the Christian Sabbath / rejected man-made holy days - 1991
Embraced the use of wine (not grape juice) in the Lord's Supper - 1991
Embraced presuppositional apologetics - 1992
Embraced cessationism - 1992
Embrace postmillennialism - 1992
Embraced common grace - 1992
Embraced the majority text - 1992

1991 must have been the big year for you.

Thank you for that post. That was very encouraging to read.

 

[Zenas]

What is Baha'i?

 

[VirginiaHuguenot]

Converted by God's grace from the Baha'i Faith to Evangelicalism - 1989
Embraced Literal Six (24-Hour) Day / Young Earth Creationism -1989
Embraced the Establishment Principle - 1990
Embraced theocracy (not theonomy) - 1990
Embraced the doctrines of grace / Reformed Faith - 1991
Embraced the original Westminster Confession of Faith - 1991
Embraced Presbyterian polity / baptism - 1991
Embraced the regulative principle of worship / a cappella exclusive psalmody - 1991
Embraced the Christian Sabbath / rejected man-made holy days - 1991
Embraced the use of wine (not grape juice) in the Lord's Supper - 1991
Embraced presuppositional apologetics - 1992
Embraced cessationism - 1992
Embrace postmillennialism - 1992
Embraced common grace - 1992
Embraced the majority text - 1992

1991 must have been the big year for you.

Thank you for that post. That was very encouraging to read.

Soli Deo gloria! And semper reformanda.

Realized how little I know and how much there is to learn -- Daily

What is Baha'i?

It is an Eastern religion founded in 19th century Persia.

Bahá'í Faith

 

[RamistThomist]

Converted by God's grace from the Baha'i Faith to Evangelicalism - 1989
Embraced Literal Six (24-Hour) Day / Young Earth Creationism -1989
Embraced the Establishment Principle - 1990
Embraced theocracy (not theonomy) - 1990
Embraced the doctrines of grace / Reformed Faith - 1991
Embraced the original Westminster Confession of Faith - 1991
Embraced Presbyterian polity / baptism - 1991
Embraced the regulative principle of worship / a cappella exclusive psalmody - 1991
Embraced the Christian Sabbath / rejected man-made holy days - 1991
Embraced the use of wine (not grape juice) in the Lord's Supper - 1991
Embraced presuppositional apologetics - 1992
Embraced cessationism - 1992
Embrace postmillennialism - 1992
Embraced common grace - 1992
Embraced the majority text - 1992

1991 must have been the big year for you.

Thank you for that post. That was very encouraging to read.

Soli Deo gloria! And semper reformanda.

Realized how little I know and how much there is to learn -- Daily

Reminds me of a John Murray quote that I often take to heart. When asked why he didn't write as much in his younger days, he replied (paraphrase), "I didn't want to need to retract as much."

 

[Ivan]

What is Baha'i?

Bahá'í Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[VirginiaHuguenot]

1991 must have been the big year for you.

Thank you for that post. That was very encouraging to read.

Soli Deo gloria! And semper reformanda.

Realized how little I know and how much there is to learn -- Daily

Reminds me of a John Murray quote that I often take to heart. When asked why he didn't write as much in his younger days, he replied (paraphrase), "I didn't want to need to retract as much."

Indeed. Here is the full quote:

http://www.puritanboard.com/f35/john-murray-15547/

It is an Eastern religion founded in 19th century Persia.

Bahá'í Faith

What is Baha'i?

Bahá'Ã* Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[PuritanCovenanter]

I am not so sure I have had any real radical changes. I essentially still hold to the same things I did when I was a young Christian. Calvinistic, Covenantal, Amil, Baptist who holds to a strong liking for the KJV and Majority texts. I have been a member of a few Presbyterian Denominations. Love the Covenanter Spirit because I was a member of the RPCNA in the late 80's. I was introduced to a more systematic approach to theology through the Covenanters. But I have never been a Paedo Baptist even though I have studied the doctrine quite intently and understand its philosophical pull in theology.

I flirted with trying to understand Charismatics during the 80's but never found their arguments to hold water or be supported by Scripture. I truly credit my first Pastor for teaching me well and inoculating me with the truth so that I would remain faithful to the Scriptures. He was the one who informed me that I was a Calvinist when I didn't even know what one was. He was confessional and a truly Puritanical Pastor. God was very good to me when he placed me in Pastor Joe Gwyn's presence. He taught me to seek for a heart after God's own heart first and then to seek for wisdom. I developed a love for the Word of God first off and then for the writings of Good learned men who have led me in the way of life by their writings and Sermons.

 

[govols]

O.K. Govols - I am not a liberal who slithered into the conservative camp!!

Quote "democratic socialist Michael Harrington to identify a group of people (who described themselves as liberals) as newly stimulated conservative ex-liberals. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" is neoconservatism's central theme."

The idea that liberalism no longer knew what it was talking about does not apply to me. Old-School liberals and new libs are both idiots and neither one of them knows what they are talking about.

I was a liberal because that is what the public schools are teaching our children and they did teach me that ungodly stuff. I used to be young dumb and stupid. God got ahold of me and turned me 180 degrees to denounce my idiot ways.

I am not a neo-con because, well, real conservatives understand.

Look, neo-con has been a catch phrase for the libs the past election cycles. My point was that changing from being a lib to a conservative, technically, makes one a neo-con (new / recent conservative) regardless of how it happened. The libs have made it into some "dirty" word now that people want to flee from. And please don't suggest that I am not a conservative,

I am not a neo-con because, well, real conservatives understand.

for I think your avatar can be a tad bit liberal at times, although not many.