Originally posted by Jeff_Bartel
Originally posted by Scott Bushey
Yea, like I said, it's the crumbs that fall from the masters table that the dogs eat.
Mar 7:27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
Mar 7:28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.
Scott,
If I understand that passage correctly, the crumbs referred to are real grace given to people outside the Jewish nation.
Mar 7:26
The woman was a Greek, a Syro-Phoenician by birth, and she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter.
I don't think this deals with common grace, but a grace that was previously strange to the Gentiles, but now was being manifested in "crumb" form.
Matthew Henry:
3. The turn she gave to this word of Christ, which made against her, and her improvement of it, to make for her, Mar_7:28. She said, "œYes, Lord, I own it is true that the children's bread ought not to be cast to the dogs; but they were never denied the crumbs of that bread, nay it belongs to them, and they are allowed a place under the table, that they may be ready to receive them. I ask not for a loaf, no, nor for a morsel, only for a crumb; do not refuse me that." This she speaks, not as undervaluing the mercy, or making light of it in itself, but magnifying the abundance or miraculous cures with which she heard the Jews were feasted, in comparison with which a single cure was but as a crumb. Gentiles do not come in crowds, as the Jews do; I come alone. Perhaps she had heard of Christ's feeding five thousand lately at once, after which, even when they had gathered up the fragments, there could not but be some crumbs left for the dogs.
I understand that Jeff. However, at that given moment, they were not part of that present plan; even Christ tells her, "Mar 7:27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled:". In the same way, Christ tells his disciples to only go to the children of Israel.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Dogs are compared to swine........
Keep in mind, a dog is a dog and the children of the kingdom are NOT dogs. So, the terminology used is specific. In this case, this dog was elect. A dog in the OT was a filthy animal; scorned. It ate and touched dead things, something that the Jew was forbidden.
Exo 22:31 And ye shall be holy men unto me: neither shall ye eat any flesh that is torn of beasts in the field; ye shall cast it to the dogs.
1Ki 14:11 Him that dieth of Jeroboam in the city shall the dogs eat;
1Ki 21:23 And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.
Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Isa 56:11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
Phi 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
[Edited on 10-13-2005 by Scott Bushey]
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