Dostoevsky compared to Nietzsche

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jwright82

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This interesting article compares and contrasts these two thinkers on Nihilism and their responses to it. Both were correct in their assessment of it but their answers are starkly different and it sides with Dostoevsky ultimately. Very poetic enjoy.
 

This interesting article compares and contrasts these two thinkers on Nihilism and their responses to it. Both were correct in their assessment of it but their answers are starkly different and it sides with Dostoevsky ultimately. Very poetic enjoy.

This was very good. Yours? A friend of yours?
 
This was very good. Yours? A friend of yours?
No sir. I accidentally found it. I've been researching the whole "death of God" thing not in theology but as a cultural moment and it popped up. Thanks though.
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Honestly I found quite presuppositional in nature. That both men identified the same cultural problem but there reaction was starkly different based on there presuppositions. "Crime And Punishment" by Dostoevsky has a great ending that shows the end result of this.
Also, I'm gonna look this up and post it, there was that famous murder that was attributed to the fact that the two young men at the time were avid Nietzsche fans and the real life story played out almost exactly like Dostoevsky's novel. Let me go find the story.
 
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Not to be a Philistine but I know the movie Rope, but never got around to Crime and Punishment. In my defense, I have read Brothers Karamazov
 
Is the ending to Hitchcock's Rope similar in any way to the ending of Crime and Punishment?
Never saw it. But basically when he's found out he's reminded of a higher authority that he's subject to whether he likes it or not. No grand brave moment of making his own law and being triumphant in some revolution.
I also saw the black and white movie which was good.
 

For what it's worth, here's an analysis of the novel. I read it many years ago.
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Another interesting thing about it is the main character is an amateur criminologist who's consulted by the main inspector investigating the murder of the vile pawn woman. He keeps thinking the guy knows he did it and it drives him crazy.
Whoever played the inspector in the movie I saw did a good job. Well worth watching. His conscience doesn't go away. So the real life story I posted was similar in the sense that those two men were accountable to the state for what they did, even though they thought they were above those lower moral laws.
 
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Never saw it.

Well, it is basically Hitchcock's reply to Dostoevsky using a fictionalized Leopold-and-Loeb-type scenario where the strangled victim is in a chest while they host a party with the victim's family with the chest containing the dead body in the very room.

From your article on Leopold and Loeb:

"In my course on the nature of evil, I teach the students about Leopold and Loeb, alongside Nietzsche’s works and the Alfred Hitchcock film Rope which was loosely based on the pair. In Rope, a teacher (played by Jimmy Stewart) espouses Nietzschean philosophy at first but is horrified once he realizes how his murderous pupils have chosen to act upon it. The obvious-but-grim joke is that I make students read Nietzsche while we watch a movie in which a teacher regrets making students read Nietzsche."

The whole movie is worth a watch philosophically, but the two key scenes that connect with Nietschze and Dostoevsky here would be this portion of the dinner party:


and the final scene where Jimmy Stewart's teacher named Rupert (who had been piecing together Brandon's excitement and the victim David's absence for what was really going on) figures it out and returns after the party to carefully confront the two:


I have to read Crime and Punishment, but I wonder if Hitchcock may have downplayed the link to God comparatively? Seems so by what you wrote.
 
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