If There Is No Moral Obligation To Tithe, What Is The General Equity Of The OT Tithe?

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For those who argue against any moral obligation to tithe for the NT Christian, what is its general equity? What can we learn from it? What applications do you draw from it when preaching on passages such as Lev 27:30-32?

And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD. *And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof. *And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

Does there remain an obligation to return any portion of blessing back to the Lord?
 
For those who argue against any moral obligation to tithe for the NT Christian, what is its general equity? What can we learn from it? What applications do you draw from it when preaching on passages such as Lev 27:30-32?

That Leviticus sets forth a ceremonial command is obvious from the fact that what is offered is "holy unto the Lord." I am confident that reformed exponents of the tithe would not go the distance of saying that the tenth is in fact more holy than the other nine tenths, or that it is given as an "offering" to the Lord. I am sure they recognise that everything the saints possess is holy and is to be offered in service to the Lord!
 
In another thread, Rev Winzer quotes Gouge:

"There be some reasons rendered about the Levites receiving tenths which are proper to the Jews" (Hebrews, 2:93). He concludes by stating that the general equity of the law of tenths requires the sufficient maintenance of ministers, that one tenth is the fittest proportion, and that where such a proportion is required by civil law it is obliging. Otherwise it does not carry the force of a law.

The Puritan view is, therefore, that the tithe does not a matter of precept but of practicality seeing that the sufficient maintenance of ministers is obligatory and the tithe is the 'fittest' way of meeting that obligation. Am I on the right track?
 
For those who argue against any moral obligation to tithe for the NT Christian, what is its general equity? What can we learn from it? What applications do you draw from it when preaching on passages such as Lev 27:30-32?

That Leviticus sets forth a ceremonial command is obvious from the fact that what is offered is "holy unto the Lord." I am confident that reformed exponents of the tithe would not go the distance of saying that the tenth is in fact more holy than the other nine tenths, or that it is given as an "offering" to the Lord. I am sure they recognise that everything the saints possess is holy and is to be offered in service to the Lord!

(Sorry, I cross posted)

Was the tithe ever 'more holy than the other nine tenths'?
 
Was the tithe ever 'more holy than the other nine tenths'?

Yes, Leviticus 27 makes it plain. Under the New Testament, as prophesied in Zech. 14:21, "every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts."
 
The Puritan view is, therefore, that the tithe does not a matter of precept but of practicality seeing that the sufficient maintenance of ministers is obligatory and the tithe is the 'fittest' way of meeting that obligation. Am I on the right track?

If one considers the tenth merely a practical guide as to what to give a minister then he has removed the tithe from the realm of moral obligation. Of course, if the minister cannot fulfil his ministry but has to go to work to provide for his family, it is obvious that the tenth is not a practical guide at all.

One must remember that the Puritans operated within the context of an established church, where the tenth might be managed as a part of the civil administration.
 
I think it's important to distinguish between the tithing of Abraham and Jacob which associated it with the Abrahamic Covenant of which we are in the New Covenant phase, and seemed to be in some sense not legally required, and the tithing of the Old Covenant period which (some believe) may have involved more than one tithe, and was legally binding.

We are still in the Abrahamic Covenant (albeit in its New Covenant phase) but not in the Old Covenant.

How we learn from the Old Covenant may be somewhat different to how we learn from our Fathers in the Faith, Abraham and Israel.

We learn e.g. in a different way from the typological elements established at the redemption from Egypt in association with the weekly Sabbath Day and from the many other days that were established under Moses, than we do from the more fundamental fact that the weekly Sabbath Day is a creation ordinance.

The fact that simple tithing was not established by Moses but was practiced by our Fathers in the Faith, Abraham and Jacob, in the Covenant of Promise is foundational for the case for some kind of tithing.

The fact that it is also mentioned in Hebrews in connection with Melchisedec and the provision of bread and wine, and that the Book of Hebrews also points to the fact that "there remains the keeping of a Sabbath" for the people of God, is also significant.

Certain ordinances which some might have viewed as obsolete in the New Covenant phase of the Abrahamic Covenant are being highlighted by the writer to the Hebrews e.g. the weekly Sabbath and tithing.

It seems that our Fathers in the Faith voluntarily committed themselves to tithing. Once they had done that they were committed to it of course.

Tithing under the Old Covenant was obligatory, and some believe, e.g. the theonomist Rushdoony, that there was more than one tithe, so that everyone should give more than 20%.

Even if there were extra tithes under the Old Covenant, since this was additional Old Covenant legislation it wouldn't be legally binding on us in the New Covenant. Rushdoony is showing the weakness of the theonomic analysis of the law here again.

It is disputed that the Old Covenant did demand more than one tithe anyway. See this analysis of tithing by someone, whom I presume is a theonomist, as he is associated with Steve Schlissel.

See the pdf, "Eight Theses on Tithing", by Rich Lusk on this page:-

http://www.messiahnyc.org/Media.asp

Here's his argument that there was just one tithe under the Old Covenant:

II. TITHING IS TEN PERCENT
How much should the Christian give to his Lord? Fortunately, God has not left us in the dark. If no fixed
proportion were prescribed in the Scriptures, we might be constantly wondering, “Have I given enough?”
But the tithe takes all the guesswork out of giving. It is liberating. We know exactly what is required of us.
We can render our ten percent to God and go on with a clear conscience.19 Without this objective standard,
we are vulnerable to guilt manipulation.20

However, there are some complications. In the history of the church there has been some debate over how
many tithes the OT law demanded.21 Some think there was an extra tithe every third year, to be given to the
poor (Deut. 14:28-29). Rushdoony and Powell claim there were actually three tithes, the Social (or Levitical)
tithe (Lev. 27:30-33; Num. 18:20-24), the Rejoicing tithe (Ex. 23:16; Lev. 23:33-44; Deut. 12:5-25; 14:22-27;
16:13-15) and the Poor tithe (Deut. 14:28-29). Powell explains these three tithes cannot be “lumped”
together. “These tithes can be seen as distinct from one another because they were administered at different
locales,”22 and because they went towards different functions.23 According to Powell, the Social tithe was
given to the Levites at the sanctuary in Jerusalem or at local synagogues and provided for various cultic and
cultural services performed by the priests, such as sacrifices, education, music, advising political officials,
etc.24 The Rejoicing tithe was used at Jerusalem25 by the tither to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles (or
Booths or Ingathering), remembering God’s deliverance of the people out of slavery (Lev. 21:43). Thus the
money for this tithe was to be spent “for whatever your heart desires” (Deut. 14:26). Apparently, the people
were to share with the Levites and the poor during these seven days of rejoicing (Deut. 14:27; 16:14; Lev.
23:33-44). The Poor tithe was collected locally every third year and used to assist those in need (Deut. 14:28,
29).26

If we follow Powell’s scheme, the financial burden on the tither becomes quite heavy. The Israelite
calendar followed a seven year cycle, with every seventh year being a Sabbatical year in which there would
be no increase, and thus no tithe. During the first, second, fourth, and fifth years, each man would tithe
20% (the Social and Rejoicing tithes). During the third and sixth years, the tither would owe 30% (the Poor
tithe would be added to the first two tithes).27 If we factor in the sabbatical years, the average given per
year is 20%; without the Sabbatical year it is 23.33%. While Powell makes a compelling case for three
tithes, there are several problems with this view. While the issue is complex, and there is a lot of biblical
data to deal with, it seems that in actuality there is only one tithe, with several functions.

Why just one tithe? First of all, this is in keeping with the pattern already established in the Pentateuch. As
far as the Scripture record shows, Abraham and Jacob paid one tithe to the Lord, rather than multiple tithes.
While the Lord certainly could increase the tax burden upon His people, it seems unlikely. After all, we
have already seen that the Melchizedekal priesthood is greater than the Levitical priesthood. If this is the
case, how could the Levites have a claim to a greater proportion of income than Melchizedek? Secondly,
the various functions of the tithe simply do not necessitate multiple tithes. Surely 10% from eleven tribes
was adequate to care for the Levites and the poor, as well as paying for the Feast of Tabernacles. Portions
of the tithe could be set aside for each of these uses. Powell himself is even forced to admit that what he
calls the Rejoicing tithe also supported the Levites and the poor (Deut. 14:27; 16:14).28 Thus the tithes are not
nearly as distinct as he claims. Thirdly, the so-called Social tithe and Rejoicing tithe did not overlap. The
Social tithe (Lev. 27:30, 32) was a tithe on seed, fruit, and animals. The Rejoicing tithe (Deut. 12:17; 14:23)
was on grain, new wine, and oil. As Jordan points out, “Together, they do not constitute 20% of the whole
[.10(a+b)+.10(c+d) = .10(a+b+c+d)]. Thus the total tithe remains at 10%.”29 Even if these were somehow
two separate tithes, they did not really constitute a full 10% of one’s increase unless combined.

What conclusions can be drawn from this? Scripture designates that the single tithe be used in several
different ways: to provide salaries for pastors, pay worship expenses, assist the worthy poor, fund
education30and music, etc. It is up to NC Levites (the church’s elders), not the tithers themselves, to decide
how the tithe money is to be allocated.31 There are not many tithes, each serving an independent function,
but one tithe covering all the expenses of the institutional church.32 I conclude the tithe God requires is
10%


Footnotes

20For example, in the book Life in the Father’s House by Wayne Mack and David Swavely (p. 110), our
authors tell us that we should, “decide upon a percentage of our gross income as a regular minimum gift to
the local church.” But in the very next paragraph they turn around and tell us we must give sacrificially
and, “That proportional amount we give regularly to the church should be one that strains our budgets.”

21In addition to laws about the tithe, the OT contains laws concerning firstfruits and the firstborn. The
firstfruits of the harvest and the firstborn male belonged to God. These laws reminded the people that God
is the Creator and Owner of all. The firstborn offering was not, strictly speaking, a tithe, because only the
firstborn male was offered (Ex. 13:1-2, 11-12; Num. 3:13; 8:17). Most likely the firstborn offering was in
addition to the tithe. The firstfruits were also apparently distinct from the tithe and were given as a kind
free-will offering with no set amount specified (Ex. 23:16-19; 34:26; Num. 18:12-13; Lev. 23:9-14; Deut.
12:5-7; 8:3-4; 14:23, 28; 26:1-15; Neh. 10:37; 12:44; Prov. 3:9-10). Possibly no amount was stated
explicitly because the proportion of a tithe was simply assumed. Either way, both these laws seem to have
been typological in character and have found their fulfillment in Christ, the firstfruits of the resurrection (1
Cor. 15:20 ) and the firstborn over all creation (Col. 1:15, 17; Rom. 8:29). In Him we are a kind of
“firstfruits of His creatures” (Jas. 1:18) because we have “the firstfruits of the Spirit’ (Rom. 8:23). We are
the “church of the firstborn” (Heb. 12:23). The ransom price laid upon the firstborn (Ex. 13:13; 34:20;
Num. 3:5-13; 18:15-16) need no longer be paid because Christ is our ransom (Mk. 10:45; 1 Pt. 1:18). See
Rushdoony, Institutes of Biblical Law, p. 51.

22Tithing and Dominion, p. 99.

23Ibid., p. 100.

24Note that the Levites themselves also took a tithe of the tithe they had received to Jerusalem, where it was
given apparently to the High Priest (Num. 18; Neh. 10:38).

25An exception to this was granted to Jews who lived outside the original boundaries of Israel, too far away
to make the trip to Jerusalem (Deut. 12:17-28). This provision probably points to the promised expansion of
Israel, which becomes a reality in the New Covenant.

26Powell points out that the Poor tithe should not be confused with Poor loans or gleaning, which were
additional forms of charity. See p. 121-133. While much that Powell says about helping the poor is very
helpful, there is a significant flaw in his understanding of the Poor tithe itself. Tithe money was not given
directly to the poor by the tither. Rather whatever was leftover after the Feast of Tabernacles went to the
elders of the gate (who would correspond to elders of a local congregation in the NC). They in turn decided
how the resources were to be used, dividing it between the poor and the Levites. What is distinct about the
third year tithe is not simply that it was given to the poor, but that it was used locally rather than centrally at
Jerusalem.

27These figures would vary slightly because Powell allows for the firstfruits and firstborn offerings to be
deducted. See p. 87. On p. 58, he estimates the total tithe to be about 25%.

28 p. 112. The third year tithe specifically mentions the poor as recipients, but this is not unique.
Comparing other passages that deal with the yearly tithe show it too was used to support the poor (Deut.
14:27; 16:11, 12; 26:11-13). Additionally, the third year tithe did not fund the poor exclusively. Thus, it is
misnomer to call the third year tithe a “Poor Tithe.”

29 p. 210.

30It is somewhat difficult to tell if the educational services provided by the Levites were comprehensive
(i.e., a Christian school) or narrowly in biblical studies (i.e., a seminary). If the instruction provided by the
Levites was holistic, this does not mean a person may substitute tuition at a Christian school for tithing to
the local church. Rather it means that the function of the local church could include the establishment of a
covenant school and elders could use some of the church’s budget to fund it.

31For proof of this, see my arguments under thesis six.

32In the NC there is an added expense for the church not explicitly mentioned in the OC, namely
support for missionaries.

I would disagree that tithing takes all the guesswork out of giving, because once we've tithe we still have almsgiving/offerings. Tithing is basic giving for the support of the Church. It doesn't mean that when we see someone collecting for a sick kids charity or for Haiti we should withold our hand because we give ten percent to the church.
 
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It is clearly stated in the NT that we are to share our worldly goods with those who are devoted to teaching us the word. We should give because we want to aid the spreading of the gospel, not because we are obligated to give. Those who want to argue points of the law in order to sidestep sharing/giving are totally missing the point. :2cents:
 
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The Puritan view is, therefore, that the tithe does not a matter of precept but of practicality seeing that the sufficient maintenance of ministers is obligatory and the tithe is the 'fittest' way of meeting that obligation. Am I on the right track?

If one considers the tenth merely a practical guide as to what to give a minister then he has removed the tithe from the realm of moral obligation. Of course, if the minister cannot fulfil his ministry but has to go to work to provide for his family, it is obvious that the tenth is not a practical guide at all.

One must remember that the Puritans operated within the context of an established church, where the tenth might be managed as a part of the civil administration.

So the Puritan view is this: it is reasonable for a civil magistrate to legislate a tithe to support the gospel ministry, but it is unreasonable for the church to create such legislation.
 
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