[quote:1cdf23c2de][i:1cdf23c2de]Originally posted by Scott[/i:1cdf23c2de]
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Could you provide a reference for this please? I think this is a serious charge which some here would like to see verified.
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I am curious - would you see this as a charge more serious than him saying he was willing to work along aside a Baptist?
The Reformers seemed to have equally low views of Baptists and Catholics, each being limbs of antichrist. I don't think many today find that position persuasive with respect to Baptists but still do with respect to Catholics.
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Scott,
Is there language respecting baptists similar to this used by Knox with respect to Roman baptism? He clearly distinguishes between invalidating baptisms that were previously done by Rome and participating in a Roman baptism:
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Answers to Some Questions
Concerning Baptism, etc.
The baptism now used in the Papistry is not the true baptism which Christ Jesus did institute and command to be used in his kirk; but it is an adulteration and profanation of the same, and therefore is to be avoided of all God's children.
That it is adulterated, and so consequently profane, is evident: First, for many things are added, besides Christ's institution; and all man's additions in God's perfect ordinance, especially in his religion, are execrable and detestable before him. Secondly, the promises of salvation in Christ Jesus are not (in the papistical baptism) lively and truly explained to the people; the word is not preached; yea, that which they read is not understood. The end and use of a true sacrament are not considered, but rather the people are led to put their confidence in the bare ceremony.
That none of God's children ought, or may, with pure conscience, offer their children to the papistical baptism, one reason of the Holy Ghost (pronounced by St. Paul) may instruct and assure such as rather list to be obedient than contentious. "I would not," says he, "that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye may not drink of the Lord's cup, and the cup of devils. Ye may not be partaker of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils" (1 Cor. 10:21-22). If the causes why sacraments were instituted are rightly understood and considered, [b:1cdf23c2de]this reason of the apostle shall damn all those that offer their children to an adulterated sign[/b:1cdf23c2de]; for as sacraments, besides other uses and ends, are ordained to be seals of the justice {righteousness} of faith, so are they also a declaration of our profession before the world, and an approbation of that doctrine and religion which are taught by such as with whom we communicate, in receiving the sacraments. [b:1cdf23c2de]Now it is evident that the papistical doctrine, in the chief point of our salvation, and their whole religion, are as contrary to Christ's doctrine and true religion, as darkness is unto light[/b:1cdf23c2de]: which nevertheless is approved and allowed before the world, by all such as communicate with any of their adulterous sacrilege for sacraments they cannot be properly called. I add, [b:1cdf23c2de]whosoever offers their children to the papistical baptism, offers them to the devil[/b:1cdf23c2de], who was author and first inventor of all such abominations; and therefore, whosoever communicates with the papistical sacraments, approves (and before the world allows) whatsoever doctrine and religion they profess. [b:1cdf23c2de]Yea, farther, who offers their children to the papistical baptism, offers them not to God, nor to Christ Jesus his Son, but to the devil[/b:1cdf23c2de], the chief author and inventor of such abominations[/quote:1cdf23c2de]
