Lucifer's Fall

[Mary]

I need HELP! My sister's boyfriend (who is a "lapsed Catholic&quot has asked a question about Lucifer's fall that I don't know how to answer.

He asked, when Lucifer disobeyed and God cast him out of Heaven, why didn't God just destroy him? Why let him live?

I told my sister what I thought, but I am never sure about these kinds of things.

HELP!!

Mary uzzled:

 

[johnny_redeemed]

i like what joshua had to say.

to add a bit of my own :wr50:

Eph 1:3-12
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He has made us accepted in the Beloved. 7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, 9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, 10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth--in Him. 11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.


i know that this verse is mainly about salvation, but i think that it has aplication to the providence of God as well. (Lucifer falling being part of God's providence)

 

[Coram_Deo]

if God didn't destroy Satan and allowed Adam to fall, in order that His glory be magnified; does this entail a necessity for God to allow such things so that His glory be magnified? In another sense, could God have destroyed Satan and Adam right away; and His glory still be as magnified as if He allowed them to live?
Borg

 

[BobVigneault]

.... and keep in mind, the creation of Lucifer was not an accident or whim. Lucifer had a purpose as do all things God has created. The devil is GOD's devil. Look at the beginning of the book of Job. Who had the idea to make Job suffer and try him so severely? Satan didn't bring up the subject of Job, it was God who brought Job to Satan's attention.

"Tribulation brings patience", Satan is the agent that God uses for wrath, chastisement and to build patience and purify as gold.

"Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O ye my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me...But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold" (19:21; 23:10)

 

[sundoulos]

If God didn't tell us, we don't need to know.

"The secret things belong unto Jehovah our God; but the things that are revealed belong unot us and to our children..." Deuteronomy 29:29

 

[Mary]

Thanks for all the input, guys. I'm one of those people who has never really questioned much about my faith, God or the Bible. "Because the Bible tells me so" is pretty much it for me. I am trying to develop spiritually, but am not the "go-to" person for theological questions, and when I get asked, I'm usually sure about one thing - I don't have the right answer!

Although my answer was pretty close to what you guys said, so maybe I'm smarter than I give myself credit for...maybe.

Appreciate the help!

Mary :bs2:

 

[alwaysreforming]

I agree with Sundoulos and Joshua. If the Bible doesn't say, and doesn't give us any good shot at the answer, its not for us to know! It may even be a sin to peer so intently into the motivations and the wonders of God's ways.

The way God does things is ALWAYS the best way. It is always the way that brings Him the most glory. And it is always the way that we will be glad things worked out when we are in Heaven and are done with this fleshly nature and can see all things more clearly. To Him be praise and glory and honor forever and ever and ever! (Even when it hurts!)