Pentecostal Systematics

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If one is from a Reformed/ or a Calvinistic Baptist understanding though, the Theology of the Charismatic church is wrong in so many ways. They do place a premium on witnessing and living for the Lord, and do place a high esteem on the Bible, but there salvation is very free will based, and their views on the second act of grace tends to divide up the church into those who are first rate, and others second rate Christians.
The Aog is the best theology group amomg them, but many of the so called word of faith, modern day Apostles/Prophets, name it and claim it, have moved to be pretty much a heresy within Christendom, at ;east those teaching such doctrines.

True and true. Growing up my parents took me to AoG and a couple of different Baptist Churches (most likely of the Arminan variety). They spent more time with the AoG Church, where I (8 yrs old) had the desire to be saved and did the whole praying the "sinner's prayer" and "accepting Christ as Lord and Savior" decision in front of the Church and Baptized in a swimming pool a couple of months later. Without going into more details, I held to the beliefs of AoG until the age of 28, I had always been one of those second rate Christians. AoG had a few "name it and claim it" types I think but it did not characterize them as a whole. I don't know if the AoG ever recovered fully from the damage done by the Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart scandals. But it definitely left a lasting bad taste in AoG. I could go on but, against all odds, the cards stacked against me, God had His way with me in converting me to Calvinism roughly 15 years ago now. Several years into being a Calvinist, unsure whether I aligned more with Calvinistic Baptists or Presbyterians, I finally settled into identifying as a Confessional Presbyterian.
 
The nearest I ever came to anything to Pentecostal Systematic Theology is Wayne Grudem. Granted he is a Baptist with Calvinistic Theology, however he does hold to the Pentecostal view of the gifts in his chapter on the Holy Spirit. I was also a bit puzzled that in the preface he mentions John Wimber as one who influenced him.
 
True and true. Growing up my parents took me to AoG and a couple of different Baptist Churches (most likely of the Arminan variety). They spent more time with the AoG Church, where I (8 yrs old) had the desire to be saved and did the whole praying the "sinner's prayer" and "accepting Christ as Lord and Savior" decision in front of the Church and Baptized in a swimming pool a couple of months later. Without going into more details, I held to the beliefs of AoG until the age of 28, I had always been one of those second rate Christians. AoG had a few "name it and claim it" types I think but it did not characterize them as a whole. I don't know if the AoG ever recovered fully from the damage done by the Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart scandals. But it definitely left a lasting bad taste in AoG. I could go on but, against all odds, the cards stacked against me, God had His way with me in converting me to Calvinism roughly 15 years ago now. Several years into being a Calvinist, unsure whether I aligned more with Calvinistic Baptists or Presbyterians, I finally settled into identifying as a Confessional Presbyterian.
The Lord saved me while in College, and went off from them into the AOG, and was there for about 10 years, being taught in their school and becoming a teaching Elder in the local Assemblies. During that time, was starting to read a wide variety of theology, ranging from a Hodge, Berkhof, to a Dr Erickson/Grudem. The Lord convinced me though from the scriptures that free will salvation and how they view the Gifts and tongues not correct, so left to move to then a free will Baptist type, to where i am at now.
I respect still the AOG missionary outreach and zeal for Jesus, and thankful that they did not get to much into the really bad theology of the Word of faith, name it claim it, and little gods Charismatic groups.
 
The nearest I ever came to anything to Pentecostal Systematic Theology is Wayne Grudem. Granted he is a Baptist with Calvinistic Theology, however he does hold to the Pentecostal view of the gifts in his chapter on the Holy Spirit. I was also a bit puzzled that in the preface he mentions John Wimber as one who influenced him.
I have read his ST, and thought that it was very good except in the areas concerning the eternal subordination of the Son, and in how he handles the spiritual gifts. Other than those 2 areas, thought was a good Baptist/Reformed summary of the Faith.
 
The Lord saved me while in College, and went off from them into the AOG, and was there for about 10 years, being taught in their school and becoming a teaching Elder in the local Assemblies. During that time, was starting to read a wide variety of theology, ranging from a Hodge, Berkhof, to a Dr Erickson/Grudem. The Lord convinced me though from the scriptures that free will salvation and how they view the Gifts and tongues not correct, so left to move to then a free will Baptist type, to where i am at now.
I respect still the AOG missionary outreach and zeal for Jesus, and thankful that they did not get to much into the really bad theology of the Word of faith, name it claim it, and little gods Charismatic groups.

I just read Millard Erickson's Christian Doctrine real good read. Not sure where he stands on Calvinism I felt he took a moderate view in some places.
 
I just read Millard Erickson's Christian Doctrine real good read. Not sure where he stands on Calvinism I felt he took a moderate view in some places.
That was the required ST in my school, and I think that he comes down on being a moderate Calvinist. He was not the best for original theology thoughts, but dies a really nice job in summarizing the various held positions on each main doctrine.
 
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