Reformed Missions
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blhowes
Puritan Board Professor
Mark,
I'm not at all familiar with reformed missions. There's [u:9ab8da6ebb]this one[/u:9ab8da6ebb], of course.
Bob
I'm not at all familiar with reformed missions. There's [u:9ab8da6ebb]this one[/u:9ab8da6ebb], of course.
Bob
kceaster
Puritan Board Junior
If Machen were alive today, he would tell you that the only good missions organization is a dead missions organization. This, too, from a man who started an independent board for foreign missions.
Missions needs to be handled within the framework of the church. Outside agencies cannot be held accountable for what they do even though they may say they have all the accountability in the world.
Therefore, I would steer clear of them. If you want to see missions done the Bible way, it can only be in the framework of the church. The Bible knows no para-church organization.
In Christ,
KC
Missions needs to be handled within the framework of the church. Outside agencies cannot be held accountable for what they do even though they may say they have all the accountability in the world.
Therefore, I would steer clear of them. If you want to see missions done the Bible way, it can only be in the framework of the church. The Bible knows no para-church organization.
In Christ,
KC
Mark,
Presbyterian Missions International is excellent. I know a PMI missionaries (who is also a PCA TE) in Madrid. Very Reformed.
Presbyterian Evangelistic Fellowship is also good.
And don't forget that there are a lot of good reformed men in MTW.
Presbyterian Missions International is excellent. I know a PMI missionaries (who is also a PCA TE) in Madrid. Very Reformed.
Presbyterian Evangelistic Fellowship is also good.
And don't forget that there are a lot of good reformed men in MTW.
I agree with Kceaster on the point that if the church had been doing everything that they have been supposed to seminaries, missions agencies, and other para church agencies would not exist. The sad fact remains that our churches cannot handle these responsibilities now and we have to rely and support the good agencies that are out there. The PCA denominational mission MTW is a excellent reformed mission group.
There are too many churches out there trying to do these things on their own but are failing miserably due to lack of experience, resources, and oversight.
To not involve ourselves with the agencies that are out there proves the stigma of isolationism that some reformed poeple carry.
There are too many churches out there trying to do these things on their own but are failing miserably due to lack of experience, resources, and oversight.
To not involve ourselves with the agencies that are out there proves the stigma of isolationism that some reformed poeple carry.
sastark
Puritan Board Graduate
Check out Reformation Christian Ministries:
http://www.refcm.org/
They are under the authority of a couple of Presbyterian Churches in Florida and they do [b:a692993d18]GOOD[/b:a692993d18] work in several different countries (Italy, Zambia, Congo, Russia, Albania, Suriname, and the UK to name a few).
http://www.refcm.org/
They are under the authority of a couple of Presbyterian Churches in Florida and they do [b:a692993d18]GOOD[/b:a692993d18] work in several different countries (Italy, Zambia, Congo, Russia, Albania, Suriname, and the UK to name a few).
luvroftheWord
Puritan Board Sophomore
I thought MTW was the official PCA mission organization? If it is, then it is not para-church, but it is held accountable to the PCA.
[Edited on 4-15-2004 by luvroftheWord]
[Edited on 4-15-2004 by luvroftheWord]
[quote:2c4958dda0][i:2c4958dda0]Originally posted by luvroftheWord[/i:2c4958dda0]
I thought MTW was the official PCA mission organization? If it is, then it is not para-church, but it is held accountable to the PCA.
[Edited on 4-15-2004 by luvroftheWord] [/quote:2c4958dda0]
Craig,
Exactly right. And PMI, for example, uses ordained Presbyterian missionaries who are accountable to their Presbyteries. It is non-denominational in the sense that it uses both OPC and PCA men.
I thought MTW was the official PCA mission organization? If it is, then it is not para-church, but it is held accountable to the PCA.
[Edited on 4-15-2004 by luvroftheWord] [/quote:2c4958dda0]
Craig,
Exactly right. And PMI, for example, uses ordained Presbyterian missionaries who are accountable to their Presbyteries. It is non-denominational in the sense that it uses both OPC and PCA men.
kceaster
Puritan Board Junior
Just to clarify...
I was not speaking against any church affiliated missions work. I was speaking against those agencies that are completely independent of the framework of the church.
I know of one locally here in Indianapolis called Arab International Ministries. I know the founder personally. He does some great things, but as of today, I know that his work is not overseen by any ecclesiastical authority, mostly because he is Arminian and because he is congregational.
These kinds of "ministries" are not in the frame of Scripture. Therefore, no matter how good their intentions or how well they do with their "conversions", they are not under proper authority.
All of the gospel ministry needs to be carried on under the purview of the church so that those who preach another gospel may be held accountable.
In Christ,
KC
I was not speaking against any church affiliated missions work. I was speaking against those agencies that are completely independent of the framework of the church.
I know of one locally here in Indianapolis called Arab International Ministries. I know the founder personally. He does some great things, but as of today, I know that his work is not overseen by any ecclesiastical authority, mostly because he is Arminian and because he is congregational.
These kinds of "ministries" are not in the frame of Scripture. Therefore, no matter how good their intentions or how well they do with their "conversions", they are not under proper authority.
All of the gospel ministry needs to be carried on under the purview of the church so that those who preach another gospel may be held accountable.
In Christ,
KC
One that popped into mind was the Middle East Reformed Fellowship (www.merf.org). I don't know much about them, but my pastor recommended me to take a look at them when I was looking for some Reformed resources written in Arabic.
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