Starting to lean towards postmillennialism - which sources do you recommend?

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Alive in Christ

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Up until now I have been a historical post-trib premillennialist, but over the past several months I have been leaning towards partial preterism and postmillennialism, particularly after listening to Jeff Durbin lay out the case for it, and also prayerfully considering several passages, including Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 11. I have to admit that I do not have a very strong grasp of the Old Testament, which is admittedly very bad for those interested in eschatology.

Where is a good place to start learning about postmillennialism? I would appreciate something simple and easy to understand if at all possible.
 
Alive in Christ said:
Up until now I have been a historical post-trib premillennialist, but over the past several months I have been leaning towards partial preterism and postmillennialism, particularly after listening to Jeff Durbin lay out the case for it, and also prayerfully considering several passages, including Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 11. I have to admit that I do not have a very strong grasp of the Old Testament, which is admittedly very bad for those interested in eschatology.

Where is a good place to start learning about postmillennialism? I would appreciate something simple and easy to understand if at all possible.
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Maybe try a source that lays out objectively all eschatological positions and their Scripture references and interpretations.

I actually do not know of one, and would love for someone to add that source here,

but otherwise, it seems you locked onto one source for a moment in time that lays out the case for post-mil (which is fine) but instead of looking over all other interpretations and cases, you now want a new source to go further down the one path and to confirm what you are already leaning toward.

I am only encouraging a healthy avoidance of confirmation bias while you genuinely seek out the truth of the Scriptures.
 
No Other Name said:
Maybe try a source that lays out objectively all eschatological positions and their Scripture references and interpretations.

I actually do not know of one, and would love for someone to add that source here,

but otherwise, it seems you locked onto one source for a moment in time that lays out the case for post-mil (which is fine) but instead of looking over all other interpretations and cases, you now want a new source to go further down the one path and to confirm what you are already leaning toward.

I am only encouraging a healthy avoidance of confirmation bias while you genuinely seek out the truth of the Scriptures.
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Just by using google I found something called "A Postmillennial Primer: Basics of Optimistic Eschatology". I wonder if anyone is familiar with it. It got good reviews and it's available on kindle. Another book that really interests me is "The Puritan Hope" by Iain Murray. I would have to send off for that one. Both books have gotten really good reviews, so as it stands now, those are the ones I will probably go with. As of right now I have just been doing the google and youtube thing, but that is a terrible way to learn.

Thank you for reminding me of confirmation bias. And it's all the more dangerous when one is dealing with something they really want to believe.
 
I agree on The Puritan Hope, and then there is James Durham for the historicist view as well as other commentators like Jonathan Edwards, Calvin, etc).
 
Murray's puritan hope is great, also Kenneth Gentry has written several books which lay out the case very well. Like you I found Durbin's sermons helpful, and if you're able to discern, Wilson and his people have a lot of helpful eschatology content.

Along the same lines as above, Steve Gregg has a well made book called Four Views of Revelation. He gives the futurist, idealist, historicist, and preterist interpretations alongside each other. This helps with some of the bias issue.
 
Corey Powell said:
Along the same lines as above, Steve Gregg has a well made book called Four Views of Revelation. He gives the futurist, idealist, historicist, and preterist interpretations alongside each other. This helps with some of the bias issue.
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Alive in Christ said:
Another book that really interests me is "The Puritan Hope" by Iain Murray.
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These were both helpful to me - I was brought up in the not-so-classic American dispensational pre-mil milieu and after I was converted I started from scratch with a lot of theology. So I started with Gregg's "Four Views" to avoid the bias issue. It was a helpful approach for me.
 
The Zondervan Three Views on the Millennium and Four Views on the Book of Revelation are good to see the various proponents in action. They only cover the preterist angle, so that's either a plus or minus depending on your perspective.
 
The bible commentaries of Albert Barnes are a nice resource. They are written with a more modern style and more awareness of other interpretations than one is likely to find in the Puritans.
 
I don't think systematic studies of eschatology are nearly as fruitful as Biblical studies of protology. Therefore, I would recommend Beale's The Temple and the Church's Mission: A Biblical Theology of the Dwelling Place of God. Or, Dumbrell's The End of the Beginning: Revelation 21-22 and the Old Testament. Or, Fesko's Last Things First: Unlocking Genesis 1-3 with the Christ of Eschatology.
 
KMK said:
I don't think systematic studies of eschatology are nearly as fruitful as Biblical studies of protology. Therefore, I would recommend Beale's The Temple and the Church's Mission: A Biblical Theology of the Dwelling Place of God. Or, Dumbrell's The End of the Beginning: Revelation 21-22 and the Old Testament. Or, Fesko's Last Things First: Unlocking Genesis 1-3 with the Christ of Eschatology.
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Oddly enough, I spent a lot more time contemplating various protological ideas and themes before I was confessionally reformed (though I wasn't familiar with the term "protology"). I guess since then, I just contented myself with the truth that all things were decreed for the ultimate glory of God. But thank you for the book recommendations - and you are right, I absolutely should familiarize myself with protology, particularly from a reformed perspective.
 
Personally I don’t think nailing down a particular millenial view is as important as getting a better grasp on the OT. If you don’t know your Bible well it will be hard to discern the arguments for the various views.
 
Alive in Christ said:
Up until now I have been a historical post-trib premillennialist, but over the past several months I have been leaning towards partial preterism and postmillennialism, particularly after listening to Jeff Durbin lay out the case for it, and also prayerfully considering several passages, including Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 11. I have to admit that I do not have a very strong grasp of the Old Testament, which is admittedly very bad for those interested in eschatology.

Where is a good place to start learning about postmillennialism? I would appreciate something simple and easy to understand if at all possible.
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Dr. Greg Bahnsen
David Chilton (his Days of Vengeance commentary of Revelation is a must read)
Dr. Kenneth Gentry, Jr. (He Shall Have Dominion is a must read as well)

Dr. Gentry has a two volume commentary on Revelation that just came out earlier this year. Its a must have for your library.

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Didn't Chilton deny Christ's return?
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I heard that he went full-preterist after his first heart attack. If I recall correctly, they had to do CPR and they think that the lack of oxygen affected his mind.
 
Alive in Christ said:
Up until now I have been a historical post-trib premillennialist, but over the past several months I have been leaning towards partial preterism and postmillennialism, particularly after listening to Jeff Durbin lay out the case for it, and also prayerfully considering several passages, including Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 11. I have to admit that I do not have a very strong grasp of the Old Testament, which is admittedly very bad for those interested in eschatology.

Where is a good place to start learning about postmillennialism? I would appreciate something simple and easy to understand if at all possible.
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Four Views of Revelation by Steven Gregg is another good book to add to your library. He is another one to read if you want to learn about postmill.
 
No Other Name said:
Maybe try a source that lays out objectively all eschatological positions and their Scripture references and interpretations.

I actually do not know of one, and would love for someone to add that source here,

but otherwise, it seems you locked onto one source for a moment in time that lays out the case for post-mil (which is fine) but instead of looking over all other interpretations and cases, you now want a new source to go further down the one path and to confirm what you are already leaning toward.

I am only encouraging a healthy avoidance of confirmation bias while you genuinely seek out the truth of the Scriptures.
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This might be helpful: https://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/last-days-according-to-Jesus

Other sources that might seem interesting (you guys decide):
www.blueletterbible.org

Four Views on the Millennium - Study Resources

Four Views on the Millennium includes The Views; Dispensational Premillennialism; Historical Premillennialism; Postmillennialism; Amillennialism and Conclusion
www.blueletterbible.org www.blueletterbible.org
www.ligonier.org

The Millennial Maze by Keith Mathison

I once heard someone define the millennium as a thousand-year period of time during which Christians fight over the proper interpretation of the book of Revelat
www.ligonier.org www.ligonier.org
www.ligonier.org

The Millennium | Ligonier Ministries

Christians have spent a lot of time mulling over the precise meaning of the thousand-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Today, Barry Cooper explains the significance of the Millennium and the different views surrounding it.
www.ligonier.org www.ligonier.org

UNDERSTANDING DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE MILLENNIUM - Morningview Baptist Church

In last week's family article, I shared with you the four different approaches for interpreting the apocalyptic texts of Scripture: The Historicist,
morningview.org morningview.org

What are the different views on the millennial kingdom? | Verse By Verse Ministry International

versebyverseministry.org versebyverseministry.org
 
F.N. Lee had several resources discussing postmillennialism on his website. John's Revelation Unveiled takes a postmillennial approach.
 
Mmm. I'm going to write a book about amillennialism, d.v. When it's published, I'll come back here and send you a message, and perhaps convince you of it. But it will take many pages, hundreds of them, and many hundreds of sources, and thousands upon thousands of words.
 
Alive in Christ said:
Up until now I have been a historical post-trib premillennialist, but over the past several months I have been leaning towards partial preterism and postmillennialism, particularly after listening to Jeff Durbin lay out the case for it, and also prayerfully considering several passages, including Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15, and Romans 11. I have to admit that I do not have a very strong grasp of the Old Testament, which is admittedly very bad for those interested in eschatology.

Where is a good place to start learning about postmillennialism? I would appreciate something simple and easy to understand if at all possible.
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:D I would recommend A.W. pink on the covenants. (I'm Amil)
 
Resources on historicist postmil:

- Seni Adeyemi - The Book of Revelation https://web.sermonaudio.com/broadcasters/phoenixrpc/series/132979
- Adam Kuehner - Heir of the World
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- Are we in the Millennium?
- Christ's Second Coming: Will it be Premillennial? - David Brown
- The Puritan Hope - Iain Murray
- Not to be Ignored - Wilhelmus a Brakel
- A History of the Work of Redemption - Jonathan Edwards
- Puritan Postmil - David Silversides (Sermon Audio) - (https://purelypresbyterian.com/2015/12/12/the-biblical-case-for-puritan-postmillennialism/)
- Future Conversion of the Jews (7) series on Purely Presbyterian
- Difference between Partial Preterism vs Historicists Postmil (https://purelypresbyterian.com/2015...al-preterist-and-historist-postmillennialism/)
- George Gillespie - Ezekiel's Temple
(1) https://web.sermonaudio.com/sermons/7150516942
(2) https://web.sermonaudio.com/sermons/71805131122
- The Commentary on Revelation by James Durham (parts available on Purely Presbyterian)
 
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