What day was hell created?

[earl40]

Our souls are not extended in space, yet are located in our bodies.

Well, if our souls or spirits are purely energy they would be extended within the borders of our body while we are alive. Of course I would not be dogmatic in stating that our souls are purely energy, though of course if it be so it is an energy that has the "breath of life" from The Lord.

Clearly, from the Scriptures, angels are capable of making themselves visible and interacting with the material world. These things are beyond our understanding.

I do not believe angels can or are capable of creating physical instruments or bodies out of nothing as God is able to do, though as you pointed out they are able to manifest themselves and maybe they can somehow change their essence (energy?) to matter. In my mind this would not be out of the possibility of explaining what a angel is made of. Though I strongly suspect it is The Lord who provides a physical body when an angelophany was spoken in scripture because a spirit or angel does not have flesh and bone as part of his natural makeup.

If it's not clearly revealed in Scripture when all the angels (including the angel that would become Satan, and those that would become his minions) and the Heaven of Heavens were created, would the divines presume to say that they were created on the Six Days of Creation?

I do believe the divines did say such as discussed previously, though I can see your point that it not necessarily such. This would be an interesting topic to look into. So far as scripture speaking of the creation of God I would hold that the angels were part of the creation that happened "In the beginning" which In my most humble opinion was when time began and I know we all agree with Aquinas "that, God alone, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, is from eternity. Catholic Faith holds this without doubt; and everything to the contrary must be rejected as heretical." Thus angels were created in time.

 

[Peairtach]

I don't believe angels or the Heaven of Heavens were from eternity. That is true only of the Triune God.

I believe that the creation of the Heaven of Heavens and angels, and the fall of some of the angels may have been prior to the Six Days.

It's been interesting discussing it with you, Earl.

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[THE W]

To answer the original question, the bible doesn't say, so we don't know.

To answer the question within the question, all of what the LORD created was good because it was in accordance with His will.

Anything that complies with the LORD's will is good and anything that violates the LORD's will is evil and since everything that was created was created by the LORD according to His will, ALL of it was good.

I will say the bible may say when angels were created. If the WCF is saying "things not seen" were created in the first 6 days then they saw when at least satan was created. I will agree that satan was created good and fell. If this is correct the "serpent of old" fell sometime before Adam which I believe all would also agree with. Now the point I am trying to make is that IF satan was created in the 1st six days (I am) he is not really that "old" if the earth is only 6-10,000 years old. In other words, the matter and energy of the universe may be billions of years old (albeit subjective opinion) and the days in Genesis may not be a literal 24 hour day.

genesis 1 is describing the origin of the natural universe.

The heavenly realm of the LORD and his angels isn't a part of that universe and no one would agree that the natural universe existed before the LORD created it.

You think someone who is 6,000 years old would be considered a young person?

 

[Southern Presbyterian]

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