Your thoughts on this?

[Bladestunner316]

chris,
I may vote for the constitution party if their is an election. then again I may not vote for them. I have not made up my mind yet. I do know that bush is a wasted vote - should I vote for him just because he is there? because he breaths? no He is not a leader for america or christians and Lord willing God will raise one up.

blade

[Edited on 6-3-2004 by Bladestunner316]

 

[tcalbrecht]

[quote:f55e92ca70][i:f55e92ca70]Originally posted by houseparent[/i:f55e92ca70]
My theology will never cause me to stop backing Israel. [/quote:f55e92ca70]

What good is your theology if it does not inform your actions? uzzled:

 

[Me Died Blue]

[quote:e331b34dc0][i:e331b34dc0]Originally posted by Bladestunner316[/i:e331b34dc0]
chris,
I may vote for the constitution party if their is an election. then again I may not vote for them. I have not made up my mind yet. I do know that bush is a wasted vote - should I vote for him just because he is there? because he breaths? no He is not a leader for america or christians and Lord willing God will raise one up.

blade

[Edited on 6-3-2004 by Bladestunner316] [/quote:e331b34dc0]

I basically agree with Fred's point that if it's Christian commitment and morals that one's looking for, [i:e331b34dc0]every[/i:e331b34dc0] vote inevitably compromises - and that the Constitution Party probably has just as many things that we should consider non-Christian than does Bush, since no commandment is more important than any other, and they surely don't acknowledge the exclusive truth of Reformed theology.

And you can vote on one of two things: principles or pragmatics. If it's the former, the Const. Party will be a compromised vote just like Bush will. If it's the latter, voting for the Const. Party will obviously do nothing (pragmatically).

I realize you didn't say you had definitely decided to vote for them yet, but I'm just re-emphasizing points that had already been made in this thread which also happen to summarize what I think about the Const. Party as well. Just my :wr50: (but not really mine!).

In Christ,

Chris

 

[Bladestunner316]

I understand Its disapointing that there really is no one to vote for that can do anything. So why vote? Its like saying should I read my bible to just read my bible so that it looks like im spiritual? If there is no one to vote for there is NO ONE to vote for plain and simple. I dont see anything wrong with abstaining form voting if there is no current canidate that would justify voting for them.

blade

 

[ReformedWretch]

[quote:c4fd32adec][i:c4fd32adec]Originally posted by tcalbrecht[/i:c4fd32adec]
[quote:c4fd32adec][i:c4fd32adec]Originally posted by houseparent[/i:c4fd32adec]
My theology will never cause me to stop backing Israel. [/quote:c4fd32adec]

What good is your theology if it does not inform your actions? uzzled: [/quote:c4fd32adec]

I just can't see how any theology clearly says to abandon Israel as an allie of the United States.

 

[ReformedWretch]

Check it out:

http://www.conceptwizard.com/conen/conflict_2.html

This is why I support Israel

 

[Bladestunner316]

houseparent,
Israel today is a whore baal worshiper we shouldnt abandon them in an evangelistic sense but to join with them is purley wrong.

blade

 

[ReformedWretch]

Our Nation is a Baal worshipping whore as well in my opinion. But I am not going to set sail to find a new land.

And if you want to talk abandoning Israel I am going to need to see some scriptures that would support such an idea.

[Edited on 6/3/2004 by houseparent]

 

[Me Died Blue]

Adam, another thread was already started for the purpose of continuing this discussion about Israel. We should keep this thread to its original topic. You have a U2U I just sent you.

[Edited on 6-3-2004 by Me Died Blue]

 

[ReformedWretch]

Where? Theology?

 

[Bladestunner316]

show me in the ohter thread scriptures that tell us to support a whore? or the wicked?

why is israel so freeking important????

why not sudan,ethipia,norway,antartica????

blade

 

[Me Died Blue]

Here: http://www.puritanboard.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=4910. BTW, if you hadn't ever used this feature before, the "Today's Posts" link at the top of the page is always the best way to keep up with various discussions.

 

[Scott Bushey]

[quote:81524a9d27][i:81524a9d27]Originally posted by houseparent[/i:81524a9d27]
Check it out:

http://www.conceptwizard.com/conen/conflict_2.html

This is why I support Israel [/quote:81524a9d27]

Adam,
What does this prove. OK, I will grant you this, it is sad. But no sadder than the plight in Haiti or the sin that occurs in parts of Africa.

 

[FrozenChosen]

I don't see a Biblical need to defend Israel. They do not need our help. They are tough soldiers, they've survived so far.

Perhaps I see a historical pseudo-reason to resolve the situation, what with the British Mandate and the Balfour Declaration. Why Britain saw a reason for an Israel is beyond me; maybe they were afraid of the Zionists or something.

I'm developing a wonderful "Hey, I don't care" attitude towards politics (I've always cared, so this is fun new territory). But Israel needs no economic or military aid. They are industrialized about a bajillion times more than their neighbors, and guess what they picked to specialize in...weapons manufacturing.

America has a pretty unethical history of "promoting and defending democracy." Usually it's because we don't appreciate how cultural our democracy is, and we're eager to force an American system on other nations.

I don't want to sound relativistic about politics, but you can agree with me that the Republic of the United States of America in the early 1800s was more of a true republic than what's governing now. Our Republic has an American flavor. It tastes pretty bitter.