Birth Control Pills Cause Embryonic Abortions Pro-Life Video

[satz]

I would just like you to know FTR that , that SOMEONE you are referring to is ME. I take the Pill because I DO NOT WANT more children at this time. We can not financially handle any more than we have now. The Bible said that children are a blessing not a command. there is good stewardship with what we have....I am right now having to take a night job delivering pizzas in a bad section of town just to make ends meet... times are tough. We try SOOOOOO hard to do God's Will. to be a godly couple. to be godly parents... we home school, we try oh so hard... but more children right now would break us. I have prayed as has my husband and we know that to be good stewards of all that God has given us that we can not have another child right now. Yes is CAN maybe possibly if all else fails cause an abortion... but My God is Sovereign and He is in control. He can open my womb and I will get pregnant but He is also in control of wether the first two barriers work. Are YOU going to help out with our bills? are you going to send us food or pay for my oldest sons three meds he takes a day now... not to mention the other children if they had anything that needed to be cared for. Are you who sit in judgment going to help me... Jessica ... out personally? What more do you want? I have two sons 16 months apart... the second was conceived one of the first times my husband and I were intimate after having son number 1... at that rate I should have two more now and one on the way. I'm 26. But I guess I am selfish... I mean I want to feed them and put clothes on their backs and oh yeah have a house for them to live in. I know that you will say "yeah but God will provide" and to that I say... "Yeah God does provide. He provided me with a hardworking husband who has the wisdom and the leadership to say wait not now. I have a God who is gracious and loving and who has provided me with BC pills when we could not even afford that."
I'm sorry sir but your post has greatly offended me... please remember that some of us do not hold you view but we are still your brothers and SISTERS in Christ.

I think the possibility of BC pills causing abortions is something that a Christian should seriously consider. BC per se is not a sin, but it is if abortions occur in the process. . I have not really studied the issue, not being married, so I do not want to express any opinion on that.

On the topic of birth control in general, I would think that you are biblically justified in your decision to use birth control at this time, so long as does not result in abortions.

While I think Adam’s words are a suitable rebuke for much of the mindset that is present regarding children today, I believe the situations in which a believer may legitimately chose to use non-abortive contraception are boarder than he appears to go. I do believe that there is an element of christian liberty in how a Christian couple may use non-abortion causing birth control, which ought not to be ignored in reaction to the sinful excesses of the world in which we live. As you correctly, I believe, mention, procreation is listed in the bible as a blessing, not a command ( in the sense that it would be always wrong to use contraception unless someone’s life is in danger).

The bible says that Christians may chose not to marry both because of “present distress” (1 Cor 7:26) and to avoid “carefulness” in their lives (1 Cor 7:32). If we can chose to avoid even marriage itself, without which children are impossible, I see no reason why Christians cannot chose to stop having children for particular periods of time in response to their personal situations. Verse 29 of the same chapter, in building up to Paul’s admonishment against carefulness, also lets us know that even for the married, there is a place for limiting their marriage so that it does not become all-consuming.

It is a fact that it is easier to fulfill all your responsibilities to God, your spouse and your children when you have two children as opposed to when you have four. That is no argument against large families at all, which the bible plainly calls a blessing. However, from what I see in the bible, it is not wrong to use prudence and wisdom to plan the timing and sometimes number of children in response to our personal circumstances.

So, yes, I believe there are times when a couple is entitled to chose to use contraception, without any compromise of godliness or faith at all, nor does its require a life threatening emergency before that choice may be made.

 

[sis]

Thanks. Doctors and pharmacists know this information.

 

[LawrenceU]

How exactly is not wanting children at any particular time (as opposed to for all of life) selfish?

If someone does not "want" children, that is a selfish attitude. Worse, it is a godless attitude, and is not in accordance with our holy religion. You will note in scripture a consistent refrain that children are to be viewed as a blessing. Among many other reasons is that they mortify our self-centeredness; they take hard work, and self-discipline to raise properly.

If someone has a substantial reason not to have children (for instance, they are not married, or childbirth would legitimately and unquestionably lead to the death of others), then I can see a reason, and wouldn't call that selfish.

The problem is that we live in a chicken-little society of whimps who refuse to work hard, and don't want to be inconvenienced. Children, to such people, stand in the way of their selfishness.

I'm not talking about people who are duped or deceived either; I'm talking about people who consciously choose to prevent conception for no good reason; just because they are selfish.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Adam

I would just like you to know FTR that , that SOMEONE you are referring to is ME. I take the Pill because I DO NOT WANT more children at this time. We can not financially handle any more than we have now. The Bible said that children are a blessing not a command. there is good stewardship with what we have....I am right now having to take a night job delivering pizzas in a bad section of town just to make ends meet... times are tough. We try SOOOOOO hard to do God's Will. to be a godly couple. to be godly parents... we home school, we try oh so hard... but more children right now would break us. I have prayed as has my husband and we know that to be good stewards of all that God has given us that we can not have another child right now. Yes is CAN maybe possibly if all else fails cause an abortion... but My God is Sovereign and He is in control. He can open my womb and I will get pregnant but He is also in control of wether the first two barriers work. Are YOU going to help out with our bills? are you going to send us food or pay for my oldest sons three meds he takes a day now... not to mention the other children if they had anything that needed to be cared for. Are you who sit in judgment going to help me... Jessica ... out personally? What more do you want? I have two sons 16 months apart... the second was conceived one of the first times my husband and I were intimate after having son number 1... at that rate I should have two more now and one on the way. I'm 26. But I guess I am selfish... I mean I want to feed them and put clothes on their backs and oh yeah have a house for them to live in. I know that you will say "yeah but God will provide" and to that I say... "Yeah God does provide. He provided me with a hardworking husband who has the wisdom and the leadership to say wait not now. I have a God who is gracious and loving and who has provided me with BC pills when we could not even afford that."
I'm sorry sir but your post has greatly offended me... please remember that some of us do not hold you view but we are still your brothers and SISTERS in Christ.

Jessica,
From one person who spends his evenings delivering pizzas out of financial necessity to another, we will be praying for you and your family.

 

[Craig]

A dirty, little secret in the pharmaceutical world is that the Pill if taken in a certain way can actually work AFTER conception by preventing the embryo from implanting on the uterine wall. In other words, the pill can cause the baby to die. This is simply abortion by another name.

That is, in fact, *the* dirty little secret. My wife went on the pill when we got married...I asked if the pill was a form of abortifacient...the doctors will tell you it does not terminate a pregnancy...what they don't tell you is that "pregnancy" is a term that has changed in meaning...we mean, typically, the point of fertilization...in medicine, it refers to implantation. So if an egg is fertilized but unable to implant b/c of the pill, it is not considered an abortifacient...of course, Christians know otherwise.

There's a fine line between selfishness and pragmatism...for those who simply don't want children, it is selfishness, and it is unbiblical...for those that have children and are barely making due...do what you do in faith, but please do not use the pill.

 

[Honor]

thanks Lawrence I really need it...talk about scared... oh yeah.

 

[satz]

Praying as well, Jessica.

 

[lynnie]

I guess the Muslim nations must be the most unselfish people in the world, they have babies like rabbits multiplying........

.....or maybe there is a better measure of selfishness?


honor, dear sister, you are NOT selfish. But please, get off the pills and switch methods. You may be killing fertilized eggs and I think one day you will have great sorrow and regret. Please talk to hub and try another method.

 

[he beholds]

Jessica, there are physical signs that our bodies have to show when we are most fertile. I personally am leaning toward the side that would say that this is something that God gives us so that we can "plan," and therefore would mean that some type of planning is permitted. I am not sold on this idea, but it makes sense to me.
I agree that we would not want to be causing accidental abortions, though, out of laziness or ignorance.

 

[Honor]

Lynnie, we have tried other methods..and for certain reasons we can not use them... plus it would not matter because I have a uterine problem and would have to have a D and C every six months if I were off the pill. and they are only partially covered by insurance.
Jessica I know that there are signs your body gives you but the probability that you could do it wrong and end up pregnant is through the roof.

 

[kvanlaan]

I guess the Muslim nations must be the most unselfish people in the world, they have babies like rabbits multiplying........

It's all about motivation. Ours is righteous and theirs is not.

 

[he beholds]

Lynnie, we have tried other methods..and for certain reasons we can not use them... plus it would not matter because I have a uterine problem and would have to have a D and C every six months if I were off the pill. and they are only partially covered by insurance.
Jessica I know that there are signs your body gives you but the probability that you could do it wrong and end up pregnant is through the roof.

I was not saying "there are signs, so use them," but rather, "SINCE there are signs, I could be persuaded that as a principle, family planning is permissible." I was not saying that you HAVE to pay attention to those signs or be limited to them in order to practice planning. I do think that barrier methods would be appropriate, if one finds that planning is permissible at all (which is what I'm on the fence over).

However, I have had two c-sections and there may come a time where the doctor says that I will die if I get pregnant again (I hope the Lord wills that this doesn't happen). At that point, we may HAVE to decide to do some permanent form of planning. For even then, I will not want to use a hormonal method.

I won't come over to the hormonal BC side, and again, I would advise someone to use additional methods on top of the BC, like a barrier method, to prevent even more so the chance of conception.

 

[SRoper]

The safety of chemical contraceptives to an embryo is unproven, and there is a plausible mechanism for an increased chance in the failure of a fertilized egg to implant. There are also safe, reliable alternatives. This is enough for me not to use them should I marry.

However, I don't think all doctors who claim that chemical contraceptives are safe are being dishonest. There are many that come to this conclusion after looking at the evidence. When my girlfriend was on her Ob-Gyn rotation she specifically asked two pro-life Ob-Gyn instructors about chemical contraception and the posibility of an increased probability of failure to implant and neither had a problem with it. One said that the risk was so low to be insignificant, and the other was convinced there was no risk.