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What are your thoughts on raising hands in service? During songs, to "receive the blessing" etc. My personal bias is that it can be a little distracting during service and seems like an artifact of pentacostal/charismatic or experiential cultures in the broader "church," now spilling over into reformed circles. Raising hands during worship seems to be an act of self expression during what is actually supposed to be corporate, congregational singing. For this reason, it can distract me, in the same way that music leaders should not become overly performative, but rather merely serve as a facilitator of group song. Anyway, this seems relatively new in reformed circles. Where does it come from? How did it get here?
 
A few years ago I posted a suggestion to install some low hanging ceiling fans to discourage the practice.

Folks coming in from Pentecostal, RC, and 'happy clappy' churches don't understand reverent worship.
 
A few years ago I posted a suggestion to install some low hanging ceiling fans to discourage the practice.

So if they engaged in the pentecostal twostep heads would roll.

We discussed the question of raising hands recently. There should be a thread from last year.
 
I personally stand like a statue frozen like the chosen man that I am. On two separate occasions I caught myself tapping my toe a little to the rhythm of a song and I immediately after gave myself a charley horse in the church parking lot. The wife had to drive us home, as I could not feel a thing in my right leg.

I'm a big stickler for hands being waived around. It not only is distracting, but it makes me a wee bit nervous for some reason. We had a visitor at our church for a short bit who would continue standing with his hands raised to the ceiling even after everyone else had taken their seat. I always wondered half amused whether the pastor would lose his bearing and react somehow with his body language, but he always continued on as if he didn't just spot Waldo in the crowd. That said, I'd take this fella standing with his hands held high throughout the offering and into the pastoral prayer over the other fella seated in the back row that without fail shouts "HALLELUJAH" at random week in week out.
 
We discussed the question of raising hands recently.
My prior comment may have been on that thread. Usually things are further back than I think when I get to digging. So it would be somewhat refreshing to find I'd erred in the other direction this time.
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That said, I'd take this fella standing with his hands held high throughout the offering and into the pastoral prayer over the other fella seated in the back row that without fail shouts "HALLELUJAH" at random week in week out.
That guy is totally messed up. The shouted responses should be from the front, not the back of the church. Can I get an Amen for that?
 
In our church some people raise their hands. It doesn't bother me in the least as I am not hyper-focused on what other people are doing. No one should feel compelled to raise their hands, but no one should feel ashamed to do it either; lest we become Michal's in the process.
 
What are your thoughts on raising hands in service?

I think it's pretty mild compared to some of the worship in the Scripture. In the following sentence, after what I quoted, you said you found lifting hands a little distracting. Well, get ready for some Bible-sized distractions.
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2 Samuel 6:12-16 KJV
[12] And it was told King David, saying, The LORD hath blessed the house of Obed-edom, and all that pertaineth unto him, because of the ark of God. So David went and brought up the ark of God from the house of Obed-edom into the city of David with gladness.

[13] And it was so, that when they that bare the ark of the LORD had gone six paces, he sacrificed oxen and fatlings. [14] And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. [15] So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet. [16] And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.
 
I think it's pretty mild compared to some of the worship in the Scripture. In the following sentence, after what I quoted, you said you found lifting hands a little distracting. Well, get ready for some Bible-sized distractions.
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2 Samuel 6:12-16 KJV
[12] And it was told King David, saying, The LORD hath blessed the house of Obed-edom, and all that pertaineth unto him, because of the ark of God. So David went and brought up the ark of God from the house of Obed-edom into the city of David with gladness.

[13] And it was so, that when they that bare the ark of the LORD had gone six paces, he sacrificed oxen and fatlings. [14] And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. [15] So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet. [16] And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.
Yes, I'm aware of David dancing before the ark, but I'm not sure how helpful it is here except to establish ALL examples of worship.
I understand the normative and regulative principles of worship.
But David's act was not in the context of congregational singing in a specific church with a specific culture. Would it be within bounds to break out in dance and shouting at the next OPC service? Would fellow congregants be distracted, possibly frightened?
 
No matter what our view: let us all have a consistent hermeneutic in dealing with raising hands, joyful noises, holy kisses, and head coverings.
 
"Oh clap your hands, all you peoples
Shout to God with a voice of joy!"
Psalm 47:1

Sometimes people lift their hands because they want others to see them.
Sometimes people lift their hands because they are genuinely praising the Lord for how wonderful He is.

I can't tell the difference, but the Lord can. I am sure the former displeases Him and suspect that the latter is a welcome accompaniment of praise.
 
But David's act was not in the context of congregational singing in a specific church with a specific culture. Would it be within bounds to break out in dance and shouting at the next OPC service? Would fellow congregants be distracted, possibly frightened?
That depends.

1 Timothy 2:1-2, 8
[1] I exhort, therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
[2] for kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[8] I will, therefore, that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting.


Excerpt from
Should We Raise Our Hands in Worship?
John Piper​

Depending on the kind of service and who was present and the nature of the music, I would guess that over time at Bethlehem you might have ten to thirty percent of the people lifting their hands in worship.

“Coerced or constrained demonstrations of heart worship are self-contradictory.”
We never try to cultivate an atmosphere where it was expected — that you’re supposed to do this if you’re spiritual. Although, Psalm 63:4 says, “I will bless you as long as I live; in your name I will lift up my hands.” And Psalm 141:2 says, “Let my prayer be counted as incense before you, and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice!” And Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:8, “I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling.”

Now, I doubt that Paul meant, in 1 Timothy 2:8, that it’s contrary to God’s will for men to pray without lifting their hands. Rather, what I think he means is it’s contrary to God’s will that they pray without “holy hands” when they lift their hands. In other words, I don’t think it’s a mandate that every time a man prays, his hands must be in the air, but that if his hands are in the air, in his prayer, they’d better be holy hands.

Know Your Audience​

Let me mention one other cultural factor and a closing word.

I was talking to a church leader outside America once who tried to explain to me that lifting the hands in worship in his city was a badge of bad theology. It was associated with certain churches that taught wrong things. He felt it would be a compromise in faithful churches if the people raised their hands. They’d be waving the flag of false teaching.

That’s the kind of thing you really need to be sensitive to when you’re an outsider and you walk into a cultural situation you don’t know anything about.

However, I suggested to him that there’s probably a better way to distinguish ourselves from false teaching than by letting the false teachers co-opt a beautiful, biblical practice as their own, while the true church goes without it. I don’t think that’s a good idea.

Natural Expressions​

Perhaps one word to those who are finding the lifting of hands in worship to be artificial for themselves, rather than real. Let’s just all agree that whether we are very formal or more charismatic, we are all equally vulnerable to hypocrisy and artificiality and judgmentalism.

“Hands can be kept down for motives just as defective as they can be lifted up.”
Hymns can be sung with just as much inauthenticity as worship songs. Organs can be played with just as much hypocrisy as guitars. Hands can be kept down for motives just as defective as motives for lifting them up.

As a hand raiser, I would just say to those who don’t do it that, for me, it is both a natural expression of inner admiration for God, and an intensifier of inner exultation as it finds expression in the body.

I hope that those who don’t find it to be so have their own experiences of released admiration and inner exultation and intensification. I believe that it is possible, and I will assume that is the case when I am worshipping with you, if you’re one of those.
 
We discussed the question of raising hands recently. There should be a thread from last year.
 
Former hand raiser here.....I will say that it bothers me when people raise their hands in my current church setting. Not because I am being judgmental, but rather because my home church often sings the most awful modern worship songs, i.e. Bethel, Maverick City, Hillsong, Jesus Culture, IHOP garbage. And those who lift their hands, raise them and sway most emphatically when the worst, most charismatic, theologically bankrupt of these songs are sung.
I have found from my experience the more emotionally charged, me centric the lyrics are, the more jazzed the hand raisers become.

The OP asked where this comes from. I will tell you. It comes from charismatics, and I speak as a former charismatic, filling Baptist and Reformed churches because they have seen the wreckage that the excesses of their own theology have made of their churches, and so they are flocking to sound churches. But much like the Californians flocking to my beloved Texas and bringing along their poor voting habits with them, these charismatics are coming into sound and some now that are formerly sound churches and bringing their poor worship practices with them. And if they are not intentionally discipled to soundness, the gravitational pull will have two effects.

1) More charismatics will gravitate to your church believing that it is "spirit filled" friendly.
2) It will lower the worship standards of your otherwise sound church.
 
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I'm personally not big on hand-raising in church, mostly due to all of the potential abuses that have already been noted. On the other hand (no pun intended), if dear Sister Smith raises her hands as the tears roll down her cheeks in worship, I don't think she needs a visit from the elders...
 
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We never try to cultivate an atmosphere where it was expected — that you’re supposed to do this if you’re spiritual.

Perhaps this quotation from John Piper manifests the deeper issue that needs to be addressed -- the inherent individualism which overlooks the need to be governed by biblical commands in worship, that can dispense even with decency and order, for the sake of making people feel comfortable as a first priority. If it is in the Bible and it is a commanded part of worship we should all be doing it, and it is the responsibility of the elders to instruct and move the congregation in that direction. But, of course, once you open the Bible and study the idea of raising hands you discover it is not an individualistic expression of what is in one's heart. Rather, it is connected with taking oaths and swearing to God. In other words, it was a circumstance of a very solemn act of worship which was done with a sense of accountability in the face of others -- the opposite of individualist expressionism.
 
I don't think we need to overcomplicate things or be legalistic about it. It can be a genuine expression of worship from someone, yet prudence might also make it unfitting in certain church cultures. To make a hard and fast rule seems unhelpful.

For what it's worth, I never raise my hands because I was saved in a church where it felt like many (myself included) did so performatively. Yet I have no judgment for those who do it as a genuine act of worship.
 
In our church some people raise their hands. It doesn't bother me in the least as I am not hyper-focused on what other people are doing. No one should feel compelled to raise their hands, but no one should feel ashamed to do it either; lest we become Michal's in the process.
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I’m in a congregation of over five hundred, and no one raises their hand or hands.

No one?

I find that a bit unusual, even in Reformed churches. I don't recall for sure, but in just about every Church I was part of, two or three people raised one or both hands during many of the appropriate times during the worship service.

But know this, every one of you, that if God comes down (I speak in the vernacular of former revivals) hands will raise, others may cower on their knees or lie flat on their face weeping any crying. Sometimes there is a cacophony of mixed laughter, crying, and ernest prayer. In times of Revival there is often a holy mess in the aftermath. Some unbelievers get revived (or so it seems). And not everybody that is born again gets revived. This has been my prayer for most of my adult life. "Oh Lord, rend the heavens and come down and rescue your poor wayward Church. [Is it not] time for you to work? (Psalm 119:126) "And Lord, I beg you as I always do, please don't pass me by."

Psalm 119:126​
It is time for thee, LORD, to work: For they have made void thy Law.
 
No one?

I find that a bit unusual, even in Reformed churches. I don't recall for sure, but in just about every Church I was part of, two or three people raised one or both hands during many of the appropriate times during the worship service.

But know this, every one of you, that if God comes down (I speak in the vernacular of former revivals) hands will raise, others may cower on their knees or lie flat on their face weeping any crying. Sometimes there is a cacophony of mixed laughter, crying, and ernest prayer. In times of Revival there is often a holy mess in the aftermath. Some unbelievers get revived (or so it seems). And not everybody that is born again gets revived. This has been my prayer for most of my adult life. "Oh Lord, rend the heavens and come down and rescue your poor wayward Church. [Is it not] time for you to work? (Psalm 119:126) "And Lord, I beg you as I always do, please don't pass me by."

Psalm 119:126​
It is time for thee, LORD, to work: For they have made void thy Law.
Amen!
 
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