fralo4truth
Puritan Board Freshman
Hi friends, I am currently wrestling with an issue pertaining to regeneration and conversion. I'm sitting on the fence in this matter and wanted to get your thoughts.
Do you guys feel that regeneration and conversion are truly separate doctrines where the latter is the fruit of the former? Or, are they essentially the same doctrine? The only difference is that regeneration is the doctrine expressed from the objective divine side and conversion is the doctrine expressed from the subjective human side. Arguments for the former bring into consideration ordo salutis and the potential problems of having a regenerated unbeliever in an imaginable time gap between the two, yet is supported by the idea that it makes regeneration appear as truly a monergistic work. Arguments for the latter eliminate any possible time gap between regeneration and conversion, clearing up the potential issue of a regenerated unbeliever which causes us to shudder. And it's also a fact from scripture that certain doctrines in the bible are like two sides of the same coin: sovereignty/responsibility, preservation/perseverance, etc. The balance of truth it's called.
The only problem that I see in making regeneration and conversion simultaneous in order of time is that it seems (in my mind atleast) to make the new birth experience a synergistic work.
Thanks brethren, and am looking forward to your thoughts.
Do you guys feel that regeneration and conversion are truly separate doctrines where the latter is the fruit of the former? Or, are they essentially the same doctrine? The only difference is that regeneration is the doctrine expressed from the objective divine side and conversion is the doctrine expressed from the subjective human side. Arguments for the former bring into consideration ordo salutis and the potential problems of having a regenerated unbeliever in an imaginable time gap between the two, yet is supported by the idea that it makes regeneration appear as truly a monergistic work. Arguments for the latter eliminate any possible time gap between regeneration and conversion, clearing up the potential issue of a regenerated unbeliever which causes us to shudder. And it's also a fact from scripture that certain doctrines in the bible are like two sides of the same coin: sovereignty/responsibility, preservation/perseverance, etc. The balance of truth it's called.
The only problem that I see in making regeneration and conversion simultaneous in order of time is that it seems (in my mind atleast) to make the new birth experience a synergistic work.
Thanks brethren, and am looking forward to your thoughts.