This makes me sick...

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So, I put this in the General Discussions thread for the sole purpose that *nothing* about this video is theological. It's just a disgrace. If the admins feel it should be moved, I am ok with that.

I came across this video quite by accident today, and I couldn't *believe* that stuff like this goes on in churches... It makes me want to burn some heretics, if you know what I mean...

[video=youtube;UZ1diGCosjQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1diGCosjQ&feature=related[/video]
 
Shannon,

I won't delete it (although some other mod/admin might). It displays entertainment, not worship. As far as the anger you feel towards those who lead/participate in that type of worship - may your anger turn to sorrow. Sorrow over their misunderstanding of what it means to truly worship God. If you know people who are involved in churches that like, pray for them. Pray that God will deliver them from such error.

P.S. I did change the title of your post. I thought the original title was a bit to descriptive. I hope you don't mind.
 
All I can say is wow! This is absolutely sad and pathetic. Sadly, I can see this kind of blasphemy happening in many so-called Christian churches. Thanks for sharing!
 
I thought this was gonna be much worse. Not that it wasn't horrible, however my mother is Pentecostal. Nothing really surprises me anymore. They could literally be sacrificing men and women at the alter and it would only slightly shock me. The "so called" church today is in a huge mess. Let the true church continue to reform!
 
I was expecting something along the lines of the second half of "Holy Ghost People" replete with rattlesnakes and cottonmouths. The "sanctuary" there looks kind of creepy. I used to think that one of my old SBC ministers "very extreme pompador" hair style was pretty out there. Now, after watching this, I have reconsidered. :D
 
I came across this video quite by accident today, and I couldn't *believe* that stuff like this goes on in churches... It makes me want to burn some heretics, if you know what I mean...

Shannon don't worry this is Satan's congregation and they're worshipping the God of themselves and not the God of Abraham Issac & Jacob. But just remember this could have been one of us if it was not for God's mercy and grace.

Here you can reflect and praise God that He has shown you what it means to worship him in Spirit and truth, and at the same time say a prayer for these people that God may be just as merciful towards them as He was towards you.
 
I know this is going to sound bad, but I would find it to be a lot worse and 10x more funny if they ''danced'' and spinned socks to Genevan Psalms....
 
This is tame compared to what takes place on the lunatic fringe of the charismatic movement.
 
Unfortunately I have seen this guy in person. Not recently, but I did see him in person nonetheless. One time he sang "ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead" from "The Wizard of Oz". That's nothing though. One time I heard a guy that's associated with this guy sing "J-E-S-U-S and Jesus was His name-o" to the tune of "B-I-N-G-O". As Mark Driscoll would say, I'm not even making this up. Pathetic.

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I couldn't bare to watch it all the way through.
 
Was that really in a church "worship service?" Or was that a concert?

It looked like a worship service for "younger" people to me... Not that it really looked like worship, of course, but that's the way things seemed to flow, especially with that beginning prayer...
 
Was that really in a church "worship service?" Or was that a concert?

It looked like a worship service for "younger" people to me... Not that it really looked like worship, of course, but that's the way things seemed to flow, especially with that beginning prayer...

I asked because I didn't see any seats. When it showed them dancing around I couldn't see anything on which they would be sitting. I've never seen a "church service" that had no seats.
 
I'm not sure if it was a Lord's Day worship service, but I looked it up and the whole thing is scary. It's a group called Ramp
It's got a crazy set up. The ministry team is called Chosen:
Chosen is a group of young ministers who have set themselves to awaken a generation. They are the Ramp’s ministry team. They work under and alongside Karen Wheaton and Damon Thompson as spiritual sons and daughters, serving the heart and assignment of awakening. Whether through expressing in dance and drama, preaching and teaching, ministering, or worshipping, they call their generation to radical lifestyles of holiness and consecration. Each of them have a personal story of deliverance from bondage such as suicide, cutting, drugs, p0rnography, and complacent Christianity. They are now rescued ones seeking to rescue others.
And, scarily, here's how they are chosen:
Each member of Chosen has been hand selected by Karen Wheaton. The process always begins with a drawing that Ms. Karen feels toward an individual. As opportunity comes, Ms. Karen grows relationally with that person to see if the Lord has called her to pour into him or her as a spiritual mother. Once there is a clear answer from God, that person must determine whether he or she is willing to make the personal sacrifice it takes to be a part of the team.
Here's some (not all, I just wanted to show at least the Benny Hinn part!) about Karen Wheaton:
...Throughout the ‘80’s Karen had the privilege of serving alongside ministers such as Frances Hunter, Benny Hinn, and Marilyn Hickey as they held crusades and conferences all throughout the world. Toward the end of the decade, she joined the TBN family and has been a part of that impacting television station ever since. Beginning the ‘90’s Karen increasingly traveled on her own as doors opened to sing and speak at various churches, prisons, and women’s conferences...

Anyway, it is really scary. Cult-like.
 
I'm not sure if it was a Lord's Day worship service, but I looked it up and the whole thing is scary. It's a group called Ramp
It's got a crazy set up. The ministry team is called Chosen:
Chosen is a group of young ministers who have set themselves to awaken a generation. They are the Ramp’s ministry team. They work under and alongside Karen Wheaton and Damon Thompson as spiritual sons and daughters, serving the heart and assignment of awakening. Whether through expressing in dance and drama, preaching and teaching, ministering, or worshipping, they call their generation to radical lifestyles of holiness and consecration. Each of them have a personal story of deliverance from bondage such as suicide, cutting, drugs, p0rnography, and complacent Christianity. They are now rescued ones seeking to rescue others.
And, scarily, here's how they are chosen:
Each member of Chosen has been hand selected by Karen Wheaton. The process always begins with a drawing that Ms. Karen feels toward an individual. As opportunity comes, Ms. Karen grows relationally with that person to see if the Lord has called her to pour into him or her as a spiritual mother. Once there is a clear answer from God, that person must determine whether he or she is willing to make the personal sacrifice it takes to be a part of the team.
Here's some (not all, I just wanted to show at least the Benny Hinn part!) about Karen Wheaton:
...Throughout the ‘80’s Karen had the privilege of serving alongside ministers such as Frances Hunter, Benny Hinn, and Marilyn Hickey as they held crusades and conferences all throughout the world. Toward the end of the decade, she joined the TBN family and has been a part of that impacting television station ever since. Beginning the ‘90’s Karen increasingly traveled on her own as doors opened to sing and speak at various churches, prisons, and women’s conferences...

Anyway, it is really scary. Cult-like.

Thanks for passing on that info!
 
This underscores an important point of reformed theology, based as it is on the Word of God...

that worship is not what man imagines, it is what God commands His creatures to worship Him by. (The regulative principle of worship)

When the Israelites were singing to the false gods of the golden calf, Moses heard it as he approached, and witnessed God deal severely with His own covenant people.

That's why it's not "okay" to do as we please and call it "worship" (e.g. dancing, drama, entertaining, emotional self seeking)- it is detestable to our holy God.
 
Wow. That place must smell HORRIBLE. Can you imagine getting hit in the face repeatedly by some sweaty teenagers socks over and over again (most teenage boys, for those who do not know, are not particularly religious about there cleanliness habitats...).

Blah. Why? WHY? Seriously...
 
Am I the only one on this thread sitting here in my bare feet, kinda winded?

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I see some false fire on the Lord's altar (if you can call it that...)
 
So, I put this in the General Discussions thread for the sole purpose that *nothing* about this video is theological. It's just a disgrace. If the admins feel it should be moved, I am ok with that.


Lacking in theology, plenty of religion.
 
Was that really in a church "worship service?" Or was that a concert?


Yes it does. Dancing around swinging your socks while singing "Jesus ditties" may be silly, ridiculous... but if done outside a worship context it really isn't prohibited.
It may not be prohibited, but do you not consider this disrespectful to our savior? Again, disrespect and blasphemy are just that regardless of where they are taking place.
 
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