Muslims' Rights to Build Mosques?

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I think the response of Rev. Macdonald repsonse is appropriate
That response, however so true, does nothing to stop the building of the mosque. Does it stop there?

Edit: What I mean is besides using the aforementioned spiritual weapons. Should civic action be taken?
 
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We are not talking about what is, or was, but discussing what ought to be.
Am I correct to summarise your whole post as follows:
The government is suppose to do something, whilst the church follow the path of reformation of herself, preaching the gospel unto repentance and lawful petitioning.
 
Am I correct to summarise your whole post as follows:
The government is suppose to do something, whilst the church follow the path of reformation of herself, preaching the gospel unto repentance and lawful petitioning.
I am saying that every man is responsible -according to place, station, and respective sphere of influence- for being mindful of his duties as required by the Law of God, and endeavor toward full obedience thereunto. Inferiors to their superiors, superiors to inferiors, and equals to equals.
 
It astounds me that believers could think it is acceptable that civil authorities should perish and go to God, and bear the awful judgment for their approval of public idolatry in their lands, being completely unchallenged by the church in this life. Even more, that they should go to God and actually be able to claim the church stood with them in countenancing gross and public wickedness amidst their people.
 
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All Men are commanded to repent. That means from the highest station to the lowest.

(Act 17:22) Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
(Act 17:23) For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
(Act 17:24) God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
(Act 17:25) Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
(Act 17:26) And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
(Act 17:27) That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
(Act 17:28) For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
(Act 17:29) Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
(Act 17:30) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
(Act 17:31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
 
I am saying that every man is responsible -according to place, station, and respective sphere of influence- for being mindful of his duties as required by the Law of God, and endeavor toward full obedience thereunto. Inferiors to their superiors, superiors to inferiors, and equals to equals.
I think I am convinced and subsequently convicted by what you have said.
 
It astounds me that believers could think it is acceptable that civil authorities should perish and go to God, and bear the awful judgment for their approval of public idolatry in their lands, being completely unchallenged by the church in this life. Even more, that they should go to God and actually be able to claim the church stood with them in countenancing gross and public wickedness amidst their people.
Those who are not Christian in leadership would not be concerned with doing the right thing as per the scriptures, and those who are say the Pastor of the Christian church can let his feelings be known, but still cannot block Mosque from being built , not unless the authorities in government agreed to block it.
 
the Pastor of the Christian church can let his feelings be known

This might be the closest to the truth I have seen from you on this subject, yet. Replace a few words and you'll be there.

"The pastor of the Christian church can has a duty to let his feelings be known declare the judgment of God against idolatry in all its forms."

Wouldn't you agree?
 
I think I am convinced and subsequently convicted by what you have said.
Brother, let the Word of God be the informer of your conscience and practice. I am grateful that you think I’ve been of help, but I simply think that a logical thinking through of the commandments, with reference to the other Scriptures aforeferences- cannot be gainsayed, and that’s not a source from my own cracked brain (praise be to God).
 
This particular nation of states -the US, allegedly united by law in the form of the federal Constitution, was arguably not a Christian nation from the beginning, at least not at the federal level. There is no reference to Christ as Lawgiver, and governing according to His Law.

Unlike that Christian nation, invaded and destroyed by the United States, which had the following preamble to its Constitution:

We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.
 
This might be the closest to the truth I have seen from you on this subject, yet. Replace a few words and you'll be there.

"The pastor of the Christian church can has a duty to let his feelings be known declare the judgment of God against idolatry in all its forms."
Yes, as its not just the pastors, but all Christians who should be sounding the alarm of the false religion of Islam.
Wouldn't you agree?
Yes, as its not just the pastors, but all Christians who should be sounding the alarm of the false religion of Islam.
 
We will not turn the thread into an argument about such patently false sweeping generalizations as this. Stick with the subject. :judge:
I am not trying to do anything, but did not the Southern states want to keep the institution of slavery alive?
 
We will not turn the thread into an argument about such patently false sweeping generalizations as this.

I do want to honor your request, and was willing to give them the last shot, but the yankees just won't leave it alone, and it's getting mighty difficult.
 
One of the requirements of the civil magistrate is “that all blasphemies and heresies be suppressed” (WCF 23.3). This would include Mormons and Muslims alike.
Andrew I have discovered one of the great mysteries of the Puritanboard. Your avatar describes you as P.C. But the answer you gave is not P.C. Is this a violation of the law of non-contradiction. Or would it be better to see it as a mystery? :rofl:
 
Interesting.

I think it's wrong to call any place a 'Christian' place; surely all 18,000 people on the island are not regenerate. That kind of thinking is sort of like the US south, where Christianity is merely cultural for so many, and these types of situations get muddied.

Is there any push back against other religions on the island?

Those two unbelieving Scots they interviewed reveal what a bigger problem may be: locals who have grown up around this "Christian island," and yet want nothing to do with Christ. Of course Christ-hating religions will be welcome there then.
 
Those who were interviewed weren't actually local, by that I mean that they weren't born and bred here, as you could probably tell by the accents.

As far as the ITV reporting went in general, it was poor quality and deceitful. However, we have come to expect that from an increasingly secular and hostile national media, so it comes as no surprise.
 
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Those who were interviewed weren't actually local, by that I mean that they weren't born and bred here, as you could probably tell by the accents.

As far the ITV reporting went in general, it was poor quality and deceitful. However, we have come to expect that from the increasingly secular and hostile national media, so it comes as no surprise.
Indeed. The clip of Rev. Craig simply emphasized his lack of in-depth knowledge of Islam. From all appearances, they clipped the context out and just showed him, on the one hand admitting that he hasn't studied it in-depth, and on the other hand, opposing it.

The message was clear: ignorant Christian minister opposes what he doesn't understand.

I had the privilege of meeting Rev. Craig in March, and though I only spoke with him briefly, I think I can safely say that he is neither as foolish nor as severe as ITV tried to make him look.
 
Those who were interviewed weren't actually local, by that I mean that they weren't born and bred here, as you could probably tell by the accents.

As far as the ITV reporting went in general, it was poor quality and deceitful. However, we have come to expect that from an increasingly secular and hostile national media, so it comes as no surprise.
Unfortunately, I don't know my regional Scottish accents. I wish I did.

Scott, can you explain the relationship between the community and the church on the island? Do most identify as Christians? Is there a misconception of Christianity and the Church among those who were brought up in a 'religious' home there?

If I had no responsibilities (wife, children) I would spend my days travelling every inch of Scotland, Lord willing. I could ask you 100 questions about it.
 
Unfortunately, I don't know my regional Scottish accents. I wish I did.

Scott, can you explain the relationship between the community and the church on the island? Do most identify as Christians? Is there a misconception of Christianity and the Church among those who were brought up in a 'religious' home there?

If I had no responsibilities (wife, children) I would spend my days travelling every inch of Scotland, Lord willing. I could ask you 100 questions about it.

One of them was English, so that's far from anything Scottish! :)

As far as the relationship between the community and the church goes, the majority of people would have been brought up in church, although many have stopped attending and a new generation of children are being brought up not attending church. That said there are still a lot of families in the church.

Due to the fact that many of the non-church goers have family members in church, the community still has a reasonable respect for the church, although this has been damaged by recent church controversies. There is also a small but very vocal Secular Society, who are agitating against the Lord's Day and anything church related. However, in a recent election to the Stornoway Trust, which is a large community owned estate, none of the secular candidates, who stood on a secular card, were elected . Those elected were all church goers and it was reported in the media as "five traditionalists."
 
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